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How would a beat blood angels with Dark Eldar or Orks mainly. Any other tips and tricks would be greatly apreciated!
Thank you.

Shoot...them?

Give us some information, What are they normally running and what are you running/have access too?

He has some sanctaury guard, The Sangunator, 2 tactical squads and a land raider. Im running some basic infantry for each army but im getting more in 2 days when we battle. What do you advise me to get?

Battlewagons, Nobs w/Power Klaws, Maybe a Squad or two of Killa Kan and lootas

Sangunator can be taken down by a ton of boyz and small arms fire, Tac Squad and the Sang guards. As for the Land Raiders, The nobs and Killa Kan can rip a land raider apart.

Thanks il probably get 10 Nobz then and give them 6 PC and 4 BC.

With Dark Eldar, Incubi look pretty scary.

To be fair, your friend has a pretty crappy loadout for blood angels: tactical marines have no place in a BA list

tko75 wrote:He has some sanctaury guard, The Sangunator, 2 tactical squads and a land raider. Im running some basic infantry for each army but im getting more in 2 days when we battle. What do you advise me to get?

Kill the priests first because they are a force multiplier.

The Sanguinor is also a force multiplier, but he's tough as nails with EW a 2+ 3++ and is usually in range for a priests 4+FNP. He's T4 but dumping large numbers of regular wounds on him is unreliable because he has a 2+ and FNP. There is no easy way to drop this guy, so focus on the priests first.

His sanguinary guard are not worth the effort to attempt to kill with regular wounds because they are 2+ armor and will probably be in a FNP bubble. They have 1 huge weakness however, they have no access to an invo save so anything AP2 or power weapons will tear them up. Just bring the right tool for the job and they are easy to drop, and be careful of this unit. They are very fast, and if a priest or librarian join the squad with a banner and are next to the Sanguinor normally cheap BA IC become quite nasty as their attacks on the charge go up to 6 power weapon attacks each for a priest or librarian. For Orks Nobs are ideal for dealing with Sang guard. The Nobs are multi wound, and pklaws just wreck SG.

The land raider is easy because as DE you're going to have a lot of lance weapons or deff rollas if playing orks.

sourclams wrote:Shoot...them?

LOL.

In my opinion, terminators especially TH/SS variants are awesome against them.

'with a stick, in their sleep..'

Deffrollas work, but do you honestly expect them to let you get that close

For orks, sheer numbers and dakka (assuming they didn't bring a 2 bloodclaw death company dread or 6..)
(frankly not that different from any other marines to fight, except that eeeverything is fast.

grot squads with cybork bodies are a great way to torque off BA players (you need to take grotsnik tho), and i've had some fun times with a Shokk Attack Gun when the dice gods are feeling mellow

timetowaste85 wrote:To be fair, your friend has a pretty crappy loadout for blood angels: tactical marines have no place in a BA list

My BA tac list dose fine. Sure, assault squads are fun, but a static shooting army is also viable. I have run one since the BA came out. Still learning, but it works rather well.

My suggestion, as a BA player, I HATE not getting the charge. Also, any unit that begins with Sang- is going to cause you some problems. The landraiders should be tackled how you would normally tackle a land raider. Assault the tacs. Shoot just about everything else. Out of curiosity, what are the loadouts on the lanraiders? Flamers, hurricane bolters or lascannons?

timetowaste85 wrote:To be fair, your friend has a pretty crappy loadout for blood angels: tactical marines have no place in a BA list

I think they can do well, especially with a priest, stick them in cover hopefully by an objective with a priest, and you have a pretty tough unit right there.

sourclams wrote:Shoot...them?

It's sound advice.

What do you guys think of useing a Deff Dread?

The only reliable way to beat blood angels is to make an Ork list that "counts as" bloodangels.

Stormboyz are assault troops, deff dreads are dreadnoughts, etc.

Killer Kanz, Lootas, Grot Heavy Weapon Platforms....Ghazkull Thraka is always a fun option and he eats SM/BA for Breakfast and Dinner (Lunch he likes a light Tau salad)

Lots of shooting, Kanz to clean up anything else.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/341040.page

^That battle report might help a bit as well. I believe the BA player ran about the same list, maybe a bit more efficient though.

Happygrunt wrote:

timetowaste85 wrote:To be fair, your friend has a pretty crappy loadout for blood angels: tactical marines have no place in a BA list

My BA tac list dose fine. Sure, assault squads are fun, but a static shooting army is also viable. I have run one since the BA came out. Still learning, but it works rather well.

I applaud you sir, well done for not spamming BA Assault Squads. Like yourself, I have one unit of 5 Assault Marines and 2 full strength Tac Squads, and they serve me pretty damm well

You want to bury his men under a weight of bodies, a 5 man sanguinary guard squad will pulp a third of a boyz squad, but your nob with a klaw and and any remaining boys will probably do enough damage in return to turn the tide in your favor.
your friends list seems to focus on having more quality of hits than quantity. When you give him a lack of high quality single targets, you can pull apart his elite units with sheer volume.