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Hey,

In my current list I'm using only infantry. However, I do miss the good ol' Hydra's I used to field earlier. They can bring down pretty much all sort of heavy infantry.
We often play 1250 points and they have to fit in there.
I was thinking of removing one of my two Stormtrooper units and an infantry squad to fit in the Hydra's. (Leaving me with two groups of 30 guards).
That gives me around 200 points, I can make some minor tweaks to gain those 25 points.
For 225 points, I can get three hydra's, however then they are the only vehicles I have...
Thus every anti-tank weapon will fire at them. Given they are AV12-10-10, they are quite likely to die.

Your opinions please,

-Loner

How i would run Guard, would be either all infantry, or all mech... But Hydra's are really nice aren't they, so its tempting to bring them in. Maybe try it out a couple of times, see if they can do enough damage to warrant a place in your list.

Most people will say drop both the Stormtrooper sqauds. They aren't particularly effective for their points.
But if you do manage to get 3 hydras don't put them in a squadron. Separate them so that an immobilised result doesn't take one out.

Hmm... May I keep Marbo?
I can drop both of them, but I need them to get some deepstriking force. If I only have troops that run across the field, I use the Stormtroopers as a suicide unit to fall behind the enemy and kill/pin that annoying unit.
The idea was to take three Hydra's and then fill a HS slot with each of them.
I used the Hydra's before I went all-infantry but against Eldar, Tau and Space Marines. Those twinlinked AC are very usefull.
And since GW *might* make a model for it, it would be even more awesome!

If you use the Stormies as a suicide unit then that's okay.
May as well keep Marbo.
Try it with 2 Hydras and if you thnk you can find the points for a 3rd go for it.

Is it actually competitive/fair to field three hydra's batteries?
For 675 points, you get 9 hydra's, 18 Twinlinked Autocannons, 27 str 7 shots that hit...

It would be overkill in most cases... the most i would go for is 2 squadrons of 2

Do you have to squad your hydras if they are your only tanks. Sure you give up more VPs but you can speed them through your back line lowering the effect of deep striking MM

Deploying far away will give them great defense to MM and MG. Your biggest threats will be LC and ML

IMO it's a bad idea to use them if they're the only tanks in your army as a glancing hit is all the enemy would need to stop you hydras from shooting rendering them useless.

They're they're really good against Eldar you'll need more AV threats to at least keep them from being fired at.

You could make use of HWS if you're running a infantry platoon, 6 shots of AC with the chance of getting TL with BiD(Ld 7s small chance though) no ignore SMF though.

Im not a fan of Hydras. With 225pts you can get Leman Russ of any kind and take tactical upragdes.
May I see your list what you will play with Hydras?

A few small problems that occured:
-40 powerblobs are unhandy. (Too big and cumbersome to use...)
-Against fast stuff, like Jetbikes, bikes and such, I struggle.
-If I remove one of the IS, I gain 75 points. What to do with those? Rough Riders?

And here she is:

CCS: 80
Standard, melta, vox

Stormtroopers: 115
Plasma x 2

Stormtroopers: 115
Plasma x 2

Priest: 60
eviscator

Priest: 60
eviscator

Marbo: 65

PCS: 65
3x melta, vox
IS: 120
Meltabombs, power weapon, meltagun, commissar with power weapon
IS: 80
meltabombs, power weapon, meltagun, vox
IS: 75
meltabombs, power weapon, meltagun
IS: 75
meltabombs, power weapon, meltagun

PCS: 65
3 x melta, vox

IS: 120
Meltabombs, power weapon, meltagun, commissar with power weapon
IS: 80
meltabombs, power weapon, meltagun, vox
IS: 75
meltabombs, power weapon, meltagun

i like the list alot looks alot like mine except i fit a leman russ in i agree i have done 50 and 40 man power blobs to big to do anything i think 30 is perfect, while 20 is to small.. but others think differently but i like the list alot i see no need for hydras

Hmm... Shall I remove another Stormtrooper squad and instead add more infantry?
115 + 115 + 75 = 305 points.
There can be quite some fun added with that right?
(Allthough we are going a little bit of topic here, this belongs better in the army list section...)

In an all infantry list I would use HW autocannon squads with BID. Or plasma stormtrooper squads. Or both.

I see a big problem with your list and that is long range support. You will have a hard time with fast armies like Eldar and DE as they can just move about the board moving 12 and last minute contest your objectives and with you only having melta guns and plasma guns you'll most likely lose as they'll just keep away and pound on your army because of their short range. Also without long range fire support your gonna have a hard time with long range anti-infantry Large blasts from artillery ignoring cover.

You can argue that storm troopers will deal with those hard to reach units but, those are only 5 man storm troopers and the enemy can easily deal with them. You could Infiltrate them so they can deal with targets earlier but, a good opponent would just focus on your storm troopers as you whole army would take a while before becoming a threat. Deep-striking? that would be on turn 2 considering your deppstrikers even arrive on turn 2, what if they get delayed? by that time your infantry might have been tabled (Well, against template and pie armies you get what I mean) plus they're only bringing plasma guns and can't deal with AV 14 and have a hard time with AV13-12.

Hope this helps