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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/31 17:52:40
Subject: Doubling up on ASF
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Unfortunate Ungor
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I played against a VC graveguard deathstar with GWs at a tourney a couple days ago and I noticed a potential combo worth asking about. I've run a search on this topic and didn't find anything specifically covering this, so here we are.
If a unit wielding great weapons (ASL) gets hit with a spell that grants them "always strikes first" then their attacks in close combat are executed in initiative order. Pretty simple. What happens if the unit is hit by another spell that grants ASF again? Is the unit now ASF, or do multiple ASF's not stack? The rulebook FAQ doesn't give give any specific examples. Under the BRB special rules section, it states multiple special rules are cumulative unless specifically stated as such. Does ASL + ASF + ASF = ASF?
To be specific, what happens if the above GG unit is in combat and has a corpse cart cast Miasma of Deathly Vigor on them, then has a necromancer cast Danse Macabre on them? Are they still striking at initiative, or are they striking first?
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DukeRustfield wrote:
For beastmen, it's a lifestyle. Even if the cool kids in their cool armor weren't doing it, they'd still be setting fire to orphanages.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/31 18:00:00
Subject: Doubling up on ASF
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Fairly certain the rulebook FAQ erratas the rules to prevent special rules from stackjing, apart from "extra attacks"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/31 18:56:54
Subject: Doubling up on ASF
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Unfortunate Ungor
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Mind giving me a page number where it says special rules aren't cumulative to begin with? Up until that tourney, I was in the same boat as you. After discussing it with the VC player and looking around, I'm not so sure anymore.
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DukeRustfield wrote:
For beastmen, it's a lifestyle. Even if the cool kids in their cool armor weren't doing it, they'd still be setting fire to orphanages.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/31 19:36:10
Subject: Re:Doubling up on ASF
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Nos is correct. Page 2 of the FAQ/Errata
Page 66 – Special Rules, What Special Rules Does It Have
Change “[...]the effects of multiple special rules[...]” to
“[...]the effects of different special rules[...]”Add “However,
unless otherwise stated, a model gains no additional benefit
from having the same special rule multiple times.” to the end of
the first paragraph.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/31 20:08:31
Subject: Doubling up on ASF
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Unfortunate Ungor
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Ah, that's what I needed to see. Thankyou both for pointing it out to me.
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DukeRustfield wrote:
For beastmen, it's a lifestyle. Even if the cool kids in their cool armor weren't doing it, they'd still be setting fire to orphanages.
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