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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/31 22:57:29
Subject: SM Vulkan 1500
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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What do y'all think about this list? Not to be hyper-competitive, but fun to play with.
Total Roster Cost: 1500
HQ: Forgefather Vulkan He'stan 190 pts
Elite: Ironclad Dreadnought 180 pts (Heavy Flamer, Meltagun, DCCW, Seismic Hammer)
1 Drop Pod, 35 pts
Elite: Sternguard Veteran Squad 195 pts (Combi-Flamer x2, Combi-Meltagun x2)
1 Sergeant, 40 pts- Lightning Claw
1 Drop Pod, 35 pts
Troops: Tactical Squad 230 pts (Flamer, MM)
1 Sergeant, 48 pts- Power Fist
1 Rhino, 35 pts
Troops: Tactical Squad 235 pts (Meltagun, MM)
1 Sergeant- Power Fist
1 Rhino, 35 pts
Troops: Tactical Squad 215 pts (Plasmagun, ML)
Drop Pod, 35 pts
Heavy Support: Predator 85 pts [AC, Heavy Bolter (each side)]
Heavy Support: Thunderfire Cannon 100 pts
Fast Attack: Land Speeder Squadron 70 pts (Multi-Melta, Heavy Flamer)
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1500 pts of unpainted proxied goodness W-2 L-1 D-2
DQ:90SG-M---B--I+Pw40k10#----D+A/sWD-R-T(S)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/31 23:04:46
Subject: SM Vulkan 1500
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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Why the Plasma Gun in the third Tac squad? I'd think a melta or flamer would be cheaper and more synergistic with Vulkan's special rules.
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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
W: 1.756 Quadrillion L: 0 D: 2
Haters gon' hate. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/31 23:19:10
Subject: SM Vulkan 1500
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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I'd dump the plasma gun and get matched combis on all the tac squads sergeants. Whilst I'd consider dumping the MMs on the tac squads due to short range and no move and fire MLs tend to be a better buy.
I'd also dump the LC on the sternguard and take a 3rd Combi-melta.
The solo support units don't synergise with eth army or really help at all.
I'd drop all of them. Double up the Ironclad (now you have 2 for duel threat and redundancy). And pump the rest of the points into the suggestions I've made and more sternguard.
So something like this:
HQ: Forgefather Vulkan He'stan 190 pts
Elite: Ironclad Dreadnought 180 pts (Heavy Flamer, Meltagun, DCCW, Seismic Hammer)
1 Drop Pod, 35 pts
Elite: Ironclad Dreadnought 180 pts (Heavy Flamer, Meltagun, DCCW, Seismic Hammer)
1 Drop Pod, 35 pts
Elite: Sternguard Veteran Squad 240 pts (Combi-Flamer x3, Combi-Meltagun x3)
6 Sternguard, powerfist
1 Drop Pod, 35 pts
Troops: Tactical Squad 240 pts (Flamer, MM)
1 Sergeant, - Power Fist, Combi-flamer
1 Rhino, 35 pts
Troops: Tactical Squad 245 pts (Meltagun, ML)
1 Sergeant- Power Fist, combi-melta
1 Rhino, 35 pts
Troops: Tactical Squad 225 pts (Meltagun, ML)
1 Sergeant- combi-melta, meltabombs
1 Rhino, 35 pts
So you still get 3 DPs but all your tacs come in Rhinos now. All have duel special weapons for increases efficiency. Your stenguard are more threatening and you can dump 2 Ironclads in your opponents face in turn 1 should you wish.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/31 23:42:07
Subject: SM Vulkan 1500
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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So the plasma gun will be gone. I like your idea Fling, but for two MLs, there is very little long range support. Any ideas?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/01/31 23:43:07
1500 pts of unpainted proxied goodness W-2 L-1 D-2
DQ:90SG-M---B--I+Pw40k10#----D+A/sWD-R-T(S)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/01/31 23:47:44
Subject: SM Vulkan 1500
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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I really like having a tactical squad in a Drop Pod. It has won me more games than I can count to have a scoring unit deep strike onto the table late in the game.
I like to run mine like this:
7 Bolters, Missile Launcher, Melta Gun; Sergeant with a Combi-Melta and Power Fist; Drop Pod
It has good synergy with Vulkan and can snag that objective that would otherwise be out of reach.
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Drink deeply and lustily from the foamy draught of evil.
W: 1.756 Quadrillion L: 0 D: 2
Haters gon' hate. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/01 01:52:48
Subject: Re:SM Vulkan 1500
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Freaky Flayed One
sunny swindon
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For a salamander army it has a pityful amoubt of meltas/flamers & TH's if ya gonna take a special character play to it's strengths vulkan is a nice model but don't let that be the only reason it's in the army
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"If a man is wanting a decent burial,he should get himself killed in summer" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/01 04:50:03
Subject: Re:SM Vulkan 1500
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
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Isn't 30 tacs too much for 1500, though? You can drop the third tac, put more speeders or add a dakka pred, or boost your Sterns. If it was me, I'd do something like this:
HQ:
Vulkan He’stan (190 pts)
Troops:
10-man Tactical Squad w/ Meltagun, Multi-melta, Combi-melta, Drop Pod (220 pts)
10-man Tactical Squad w/ Meltagun, Multi-melta, Combi-melta, Drop Pod (220 pts)
Elites:
Ironclad Dreadnought w/ Seismic Hammer, Meltagun, Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod (170 pts)
Ironclad Dreadnought w/ Seismic Hammer, Meltagun, Heavy Flamer, Drop Pod (170 pts)
7-man Sternguard Veteran Squad, 5x combi-melta, 2x combi-flamer, Drop Pod (245 pts)
Fast Attack:
Land Speeder Squadron, 2 LS, both MM/HF (140 pts.)
Land Speeder Squadron, 2 LS, both MM/HF (140 pts.)
Total: 1495. Still 5 points to spare. Meltabombs, maybe?
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Violence is not the answer, but it's always a good guess. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/01 05:45:26
Subject: Re:SM Vulkan 1500
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Freaky Flayed One
sunny swindon
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Now that's a salamander list & i agree 30 is to much at that level
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"If a man is wanting a decent burial,he should get himself killed in summer" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/01 09:03:16
Subject: Re:SM Vulkan 1500
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Death-Dealing Ultramarine Devastator
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Hmmm I would chuck in some TH/ SS in a Land Raider Redeemer  That would be fun.
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There is no such thing as innocence, only varying levels of guilt. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/01 20:46:59
Subject: SM Vulkan 1500
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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My problem with the termies and LR is that is about one fifth of my points in one unit.
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1500 pts of unpainted proxied goodness W-2 L-1 D-2
DQ:90SG-M---B--I+Pw40k10#----D+A/sWD-R-T(S)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/01 21:29:35
Subject: Re:SM Vulkan 1500
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Freaky Flayed One
sunny swindon
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Yeah you don't have 2 have termies with a LR but definately more melta/flamer
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"If a man is wanting a decent burial,he should get himself killed in summer" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/01 22:51:39
Subject: SM Vulkan 1500
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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ToxicsLayer wrote:My problem with the termies and LR is that is about one fifth of my points in one unit.
Its a deathstar unit. They are extremely powerful in what they can deliver, but it is putting a lot of eggs in one basket.
I've had my LR - TH/ SS termies prove worthwhile time and time again, but I still often bring a wave of support instead.
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