Switch Theme:

Paladin Walker (Adepta Sororitas)  [RSS] Share on facebook Share on Twitter Submit to Reddit
»
Author Message
Advert


Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you:
  • No adverts like this in the forums anymore.
  • Times and dates in your local timezone.
  • Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance.
  • Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely.
  • Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net.
If you are already a member then feel free to login now.




Made in us
Consigned to the Grim Darkness





USA

Toying around with an idea of a modified sentinel design for a Sororitas walker. Visually the design would be something akin to a heavy sentinel, with one "arm" on the nose with eviscerator attached, and a weapon on either side of the hull. The legs and hull would be more bulky, as the legs need increased strength to carry the weight while maintaining speed, which also adds slightly to the level of armor it has... not at the level of dreadnaught armor, but enough to make it a viable combat walker. Its bulk also helps it carry the ammunition for its dual weapons.

Points: 90
Rules: Walker
Armor: F12 S11 R10
Stats: Bs4, Ws4, S5, I3, At1
Equipment: Extra Armor, Smoke Launchers, Searchlight

Fire Support Pattern (+0): Heavy bolter on either side (TL Heavy Bolter), eviscerator on the arm (adds +1 S10 chainfist attack).
Options: Replace Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter with the following:
-- Twin-Linked Heavy Flamer (+10)
-- Twin-Linked Multi-Melta (+30)

Assault Pattern (+25): Two eviscerators (one arm on either side, adds +2 chainfist attacks), one nose-mounted heavy bolter
Options: Replace Heavy Bolter with the following:
-- Heavy Flamer (+5)
-- Multi-Melta (+15)

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/02/02 15:02:19


The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





Scotland

Hello Melissia. I like it, i always did miss the chainsaw on the old sentinel, are sisters the pilots? One minor point i might make; the profile has 1 attack but the option to have an additional chainfist attack i think this could get confusing. Might i suggest just having it as a DCCW with the assault pattern totting a second? EDIT: On the modelling side have you considered putting an immolater turret onto sentinel legs? I think that could look cool.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/02/02 20:12:16


Mary Sue wrote: Perkustin is even more awesome than me!



 
   
Made in us
Consigned to the Grim Darkness





USA

Dunno, I don't think it's any more confusing than the techmarine, who has a similar upgrade.

The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





Scotland

I suppose if the whole point of the walker is cracking tanks with a chainfist then go ahead. Personally i would say DCCW is a better all round assault choice.

Mary Sue wrote: Perkustin is even more awesome than me!



 
   
Made in us
Consigned to the Grim Darkness





USA

The chainfist thing is because it is literally wielding an eviscerator, which is basically a two-handed chainfist (a gigantic chainsword surrounded in an energy field).

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/02/02 20:25:33


The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
 
   
Made in gb
Longtime Dakkanaut





Scotland

That would look pretty rad . Thought i'd add the points cost i think is pretty bang on for the first and maybe a tad high on the second. Any more vehicles/vehicles planned? I assume you are trying to round the sisters army.

Mary Sue wrote: Perkustin is even more awesome than me!



 
   
Made in us
Consigned to the Grim Darkness





USA

This really is just a last minute idea for my 5eC:AS project on the IGMB. A few of the other ideas I've had I've also posted here.

The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
 
   
Made in gb
Fixture of Dakka






Lincolnshire, UK

I think it seems good. It seems to be well balanced and costed. I honestly can't really think of any real criticism for it.

I think you should clarify whether the gun upgrades are for each Heavy Bolter or both and maybe a couple more options would be good.
I am unsure as to how it would look, but that's not the point of your post.

So yes, rules wise it looks well done and balanced. May warrant a 5pts point increase, but otherwise...

Enlist as a virtual Ultramarine! Click here for my Chaos Gate (PC) thread.

"It is the great irony of the Legiones Astartes: engineered to kill to achieve a victory of peace that they can then be no part of."
- Roboute Guilliman

"As I recall, your face was tortured. Imagine that - the Master of the Wolves, his ferocity twisted into grief. And yet you still carried out your duty. You always did what was asked of you. So loyal. So tenacious. Truly you were the attack dog of the Emperor. You took no pleasure in what you did. I knew that then, and I know it now. But all things change, my brother. I'm not the same as I was, and you're... well, let us not mention where you are now."
- Magnus the Red, to a statue of Leman Russ
 
   
Made in us
Consigned to the Grim Darkness





USA

It's per weapon, but the TL weapons have both of the weapons accounted for (thirty total for two fifteen point multi-meltas).

As for looks, take a slightly bulkier version of a sentinel, put a heavy bolter on either side of the head similar to the AT-ST from star wars, and a short mechanical arm with an eviscerater welded to it attached to the nose where the nose-mounted multilaser would have been. In the assault variant, the mechanical arm has a twin and they're put on either side of the head, and the chin mounted weapon returns as before giving a visual style remniscent of certain battlemechs.

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2011/02/02 22:29:06


The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
 
   
Made in us
Veteran ORC







I am a little hesitant to say that the inclusion of a Multi Melta on something with three chainfist attacks is a "good" idea (for your opponents, I mean).

Since it is an Assault Pattern, shouldn't it be a normal Melta? Though Multi-Meltas are more iconic. Either way.


Also, is this a stand alone walker or a Squad?

I've never feared Death or Dying. I've only feared never Trying. 
   
Made in us
Consigned to the Grim Darkness





USA

Stand-alone.

The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
 
   
Made in us
Veteran ORC







Melissia wrote:Stand-alone.


I like it, wouldn't mind destroying one violently.

I've never feared Death or Dying. I've only feared never Trying. 
   
Made in us
Consigned to the Grim Darkness





USA

Alternatively, I could decrease the points cost and have it be special weapons instead of heavy-- storm bolters, flamers, and meltaguns. But the problem there is that then the only time it'd be used would be the assault pattern with flamer... a twin-linked storm bolter isn't that unique, and Sisters have other ways to get mobile meltaguns. Mobile twin-linked heavy weapons, however, offer the vehicle an opportunity to offer the army something more useful, even at an increased cost.

I could have it be that the assault pattern uses storm bolter, flamer (+5), or meltagun (+10) as its weapon choices though.

The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
 
   
Made in us
Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot






Although this idea seems relatively balanced (without play testing it's hard to say for sure), I just don't like the concept. This is essentially a SoB-Dreadnought and comes very close to just making SoB Space Marines...with girly-parts!

- 3000
- 145 
   
Made in us
Consigned to the Grim Darkness





USA

You mean, just like everything else Sisters have is similar to something else Imperial?

I based it off of the armored sentinel design for both balance and gameplay purposes, not the dreadnought. I defy you to make an Imperial walker for Sisters that doesn't feel like a dread. And no, the penitent engine doesn't count. It's not properly a Sisters walker, it's more of a machine based monstrous creature which even by 40k standards needs to take anger management classes. It's not driven by Sisters, and hell it's even primarily used by the Ecclesiarchy and controlled by its priests, rather than Sisters.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/02/07 14:46:00


The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
 
   
Made in us
Purposeful Hammerhead Pilot






First of all, a sentinel doesn't feel like a dread, lower armor, no power weapon. Yours sounds like, and acts like, a standard SM dread with a slightly worse profile. I don't dislike the profile, just the feel of it.

And in terms of SoB just being SM, I agree, and I think they need to get something that sets them apart. Make their MBT instead be a walker? Awesome. Walker transport? Sweet! Just, don't make a Dread Mk.2 because you don't like the Penitent Engine (and I understand why you don't)

- 3000
- 145 
   
Made in us
Executing Exarch




Just as a heads up, there's already a 'Paladin' in the setting. Specifically, it's one of the classes of 'Knight'-type mini-titans used by the Titan Legions. You may want to consider picking a different name to avoid possible confusion.

Aside from that quibble, the design itself looks decent.
   
Made in us
Consigned to the Grim Darkness





USA

There's also a grey knight unit called paladin. IT's hardly a unique title, but it fits Sisters, being holy soldiers of the Emperor second to none.

I could definitely turn this into an MBT if you wanted me to try that out, but it is a bit annoying to try and find an MBT style weapon using only bolter, flamer, and melta.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/02/09 16:59:21


The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
 
   
Made in us
Executing Exarch




An MBT walker? Something like that would be big - REALLY big.

On the other hand, there's already an existing Paladin walker in fluff that would probably be about the right size for an MBT-type vehicle. If you did decide to go the walking tank route, perhaps try it out as a variant of the Paladin-class Knight?


Edit - Though I suppose the lack of an existing 28mm scale Paladin-class Knight might cause issues if you actually wanted to mock up something based off of it...

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/02/09 20:16:15


 
   
Made in us
Consigned to the Grim Darkness





USA

It doesn't have to be called "Paladin", that was just a name I gave because it suited the Sisters.

When I get done playing Minecraft Ill work on an MBT-style walker.

The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
 
   
Made in us
Consigned to the Grim Darkness





USA

Here goes. The basic concept for the looks of this this walker is the Battletech Rifleman, but with feet closer to power armor boots, a slightly more rounded surface somewhat mimicking the feel of Sororitas power armor, and no radar dish on top. The Purgatus Rocket System is on the bumps on either side of hte centrally located cockpit, the storm bolter is on the nose of the cockpit (essentially right in front of the sororitas pilot). It is a sort of MBT Walker, a walker dedicated to having large amounts of shooty instead of close combat. In order to enhance this feel, the vehicle does not have any DCCW, although it does have a natural strength of six (I did not see a reason why the vehicle wouldn't be able to do more damage in close combat than, say, a scout sentinel).

In fluff, there's three options for the pilot: 1 is similar to that of a dread, that the pilots are aging veteran Sisters, linked into the machine in life support systems so that they can continue to serve the Emperor even as their bodies start to degrade due to old age... 2 is more in line with the titans, in that only those Sisters of strong enough willpower and sense of self can properly fuse with the machine. The final one is that in order to be able to pilot it, a Sister needs to undergo surgery to have neural implants similar to that of the Black Carapace of the Astartes or the Mind Impulse Unit used by the Mechanicus. This is also irreversible, but means that the Sisters can occasionally leave the machine (if it becomes too damaged for example, or while it is being repaired, or when they need to spend time praying and training, etc). Personally I'm leaning towards the third one.


Points: 165
Rules: Walker
Armor: F14 S12 R11
Stats: Bs4, Ws4, S6, I4, At1
Equipment: Smoke Launchers, Searchlight, Twin Bolt Cannon, nose-mounted Storm Bolter
-- Twin Bolt Cannon: R60", S7 AP4 Heavy 4 Twin-Linked
Nay exchange Twin Bolt Cannon for: [Unsure on the price for these two]
-- Two Twin-Linked Melta Cannons (as on Devil Dog)
-- Two Twin-Linked Inferno Cannons (as on Hellhound)
May purchase Purgatus Rocket System (30 pts)
-- Purgatus Rocket System: R24", S5 AP5, Heavy 1 Large Blast, Twin-Linked, Ignores Cover Saves, One Use Only
May upgrade nose Storm Bolter to Heavy Flamer or Heavy Bolter for +5 points.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/02/14 02:06:39


The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
 
   
Made in us
Consigned to the Grim Darkness





USA

Thus far 30 or 40 points are what have been suggested to me for the two alternate patterns to its primary weapons.

The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
 
   
Made in us
Consigned to the Grim Darkness





USA

Should I post this in a new thread? This isnt' really the original paladin walker anymore.

The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
-- Adam Serwer
My blog
 
   
 
Forum Index » 40K Proposed Rules
Go to: