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I have NEVER had a problem dealing with terminators and wiping them out....

just a thought...

Just normal ones? The only annoying ones are the Thunder Hammer Stormshield ones.

I nominate this for thread of the year

Meh they're only a problem when they're in a LR. Open the land raider & they cease being scary. Unless it's DA DW. They can take a scary amount of TH/SS but throw CML in the squads as well.

So I take it your tactic is to fling them to ground and stomp on them?

You can't really call Terminators bad units. They're not really bad. The one thing they do well is survivability. But in a game riddled with high strength/low ap shots right now that isn't always the best thing to be good at. Once you start switching weapons from powerfist/stormbolter is where they get good.

Oh, guess my tank hunter cyclone termies didn't get the memo. Too bad.

I think the problem is that too many people buy basic terminators like the ones with the power fists and storm bolters. My theory is that people mainly get the vanilla terminators from the black reach boxed set. I just haven't seen good space marine players use terminators effectively. (maybe I am inexperienced?) They are a well-rounded unit but not worth it when they get shot to pieces deep striking. Im sure the best way to use them is what that kid said and have them in a land raider with assault equipment...

But to reiterate what I said, I have never had a problem dealing with terminators and i've been playing casually since 2007. My plasma gun doesn't care whether you are a terminator or not. Plus they are like 250 points you could get some awesome stuff for that amount of points in an SM army

Terminators are just like any other unit in the game: a problem that needs to be solved.

Some problems are more difficult to solve than others, I.E. Land Raiders when playing Orks, but that's called strategy, and, news flash, 40k is a strategy game.

LOUIE.ROCKETFINGERS wrote:I think the problem is that too many people buy basic terminators like the ones with the power fists and storm bolters. My theory is that people mainly get the vanilla terminators from the black reach boxed set. I just haven't seen good space marine players use terminators effectively. (maybe I am inexperienced?) They are a well-rounded unit but not worth it when they get shot to pieces deep striking. Im sure the best way to use them is what that kid said and have them in a land raider with assault equipment...

But to reiterate what I said, I have never had a problem dealing with terminators and i've been playing casually since 2007. My plasma gun doesn't care whether you are a terminator or not. Plus they are like 250 points you could get some awesome stuff for that amount of points in an SM army

Your plasma gun DOES care when the terminators are 48" away with two CMLs and tank hunters and are turning your vehicles into burning rubble. It also cares when they're in your face with furious charge and Lightning Claws with rerolls to hit.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, while terminators aren't invincible, they can certainly ruin your day.

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

LOUIE.ROCKETFINGERS wrote:I think the problem is that too many people buy basic terminators like the ones with the power fists and storm bolters. My theory is that people mainly get the vanilla terminators from the black reach boxed set. I just haven't seen good space marine players use terminators effectively. (maybe I am inexperienced?) They are a well-rounded unit but not worth it when they get shot to pieces deep striking. Im sure the best way to use them is what that kid said and have them in a land raider with assault equipment...

But to reiterate what I said, I have never had a problem dealing with terminators and i've been playing casually since 2007. My plasma gun doesn't care whether you are a terminator or not. Plus they are like 250 points you could get some awesome stuff for that amount of points in an SM army

Your plasma gun DOES care when the terminators are 48" away with two CMLs and tank hunters and are turning your vehicles into burning rubble. It also cares when they're in your face with furious charge and Lightning Claws with rerolls to hit.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, while terminators aren't invincible, they can certainly ruin your day.

someones upset

LOUIE.ROCKETFINGERS wrote:

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

LOUIE.ROCKETFINGERS wrote:I think the problem is that too many people buy basic terminators like the ones with the power fists and storm bolters. My theory is that people mainly get the vanilla terminators from the black reach boxed set. I just haven't seen good space marine players use terminators effectively. (maybe I am inexperienced?) They are a well-rounded unit but not worth it when they get shot to pieces deep striking. Im sure the best way to use them is what that kid said and have them in a land raider with assault equipment...

But to reiterate what I said, I have never had a problem dealing with terminators and i've been playing casually since 2007. My plasma gun doesn't care whether you are a terminator or not. Plus they are like 250 points you could get some awesome stuff for that amount of points in an SM army

Your plasma gun DOES care when the terminators are 48" away with two CMLs and tank hunters and are turning your vehicles into burning rubble. It also cares when they're in your face with furious charge and Lightning Claws with rerolls to hit.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, while terminators aren't invincible, they can certainly ruin your day.

someones upset

No, someone's not agreeing with you.

enraged

I smell a troll, but I'll take the bait.

Standard terminators work better staying at range. They're a very flexible unit. They can fire their stormbolters on the advance, or even on the retreat if the enemy has superior numbers. If you've got LOTS of plasma that you're reaching out to 24" with, the terminators need to have support nearby to add to their firepower. They, and their support, shoot across at what's right in front of them and eliminate it. Everything else should be slightly out of range due to the angle of the shot. Reposition and repeat. They could also be ballsy and deepstrike near the edge of the board, where perhaps only one unit is in range of them. They can also time their landing with an advancing assault or bike squad, so they deepstrike, the fast unit assaults your plasma squad, and the terminators are saved from firepower for that turn. Then they're among you smashing you to bits.

If you send in anything unsupported, it's going to die. They need to learn to use them in conjunction with the rest of their army. Until they do, you'll have a field day kicking their carcasses around.

Thread locked for trolling.