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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/03 23:37:31
Subject: Tank shocking with fast-skimmer transports
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Slave on the Slave Snares
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Here's the question:
Say a Raider with a shock prow (Allowing it to tank shock), turbo-boosts 24" to tank shock a vehicle, and in the resulting damage rolls, destroys itself, can the unit inside then shoot/assault that turn? (As it has not disembarked as per the Turbo-boosting rules, wouldn't be destroyed because it wasn't a dangerous terrain test, and is obviously open topped).
Thoughts please!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/03 23:49:21
Subject: Tank shocking with fast-skimmer transports
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Annoyed Blood Angel Devastator
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The guys inside would die, because the unit inside is unable to disembark due to the turboboost, and leaving a vehicle for any reason is classed as disembarking.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/03 23:53:46
Subject: Re:Tank shocking with fast-skimmer transports
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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IRRC according to the new BRB FAQ, a transport that wrecks the same player turn that it goes flat out, the cargo is removed from play and destroyed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/03 23:55:07
Subject: Tank shocking with fast-skimmer transports
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
Toledo, Ohio
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Steve and Slick are correct unfortunately :-P
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/03 23:57:43
Subject: Re:Tank shocking with fast-skimmer transports
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Morale of the story : Don't tank shock with AV 10 vs anything that can death or glory
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/03 23:59:01
Subject: Re:Tank shocking with fast-skimmer transports
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Slave on the Slave Snares
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But if a vehicle turbo boosts and is shot down then the unit doesn't die? Sure it says that the unit may not disembark if it moves flat out, but that implies voluntarily disembark.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/04 00:01:48
Subject: Tank shocking with fast-skimmer transports
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
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Hmmmmm.... No, you can't get out and act normally after your speeder crashes into a tank and explodes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/04 00:03:57
Subject: Re:Tank shocking with fast-skimmer transports
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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Genemachine wrote:But if a vehicle turbo boosts and is shot down then the unit doesn't die? Sure it says that the unit may not disembark if it moves flat out, but that implies voluntarily disembark.
If the unit is shot down in the enemy turn, then the unit disembarks as per wrecked and destroyed rules. If you wreck on your own turn, then the unit inside is destroyed.
They probably added this FAQ entry to prevent people from trying to ram or turbo boost in terrain in an attempt to wreck ones self to get a 24"+ 2"+ D6"+6 charge range on raider units.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/04 00:06:06
Subject: Tank shocking with fast-skimmer transports
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Slave on the Slave Snares
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Ah I see, Thanks for clearing that up anyway, stil getting my head around using dark eldar in 5th edition, lots of rules i havent really used before!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/04 00:07:19
Subject: Re:Tank shocking with fast-skimmer transports
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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labmouse42 wrote:Morale of the story : Don't tank shock with AV 10 vs anything that can death or glory
Lol I had a game with a DE player who turboboost tank shocked my Ironclad dreadnought. I don't think he realised I could death or glory.
Auto-hit, auto pen, wreck on 2+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/04 00:13:55
Subject: Re:Tank shocking with fast-skimmer transports
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Slave on the Slave Snares
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Wouldve been funny if he passed a flickerfield save tho, dead dread!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/04 00:38:24
Subject: Tank shocking with fast-skimmer transports
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Aether sails and a shock prow is still a nasty combo. D3 Str +1 STR per 3" with a max move between 26-36" and a strong average of 31" It just has to be an empty transport.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/04 05:48:15
Subject: Re:Tank shocking with fast-skimmer transports
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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Genemachine wrote:Wouldve been funny if he passed a flickerfield save tho, dead dread! 
The dread doesnt die. Walkers that dont death or glory are hit on the proper facing, and if a Walker fails death or glory then they take it on rear armor.
Walkers can not death or glory if rammed in their rear arc
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/04 06:23:43
Subject: Tank shocking with fast-skimmer transports
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Black Templar Recruit Undergoing Surgeries
Bendigo, Australia
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I played a game with an eldar player who rammed my LRC at full speed with his Fire Prism -which had lost it's main weapon mind you - penentrated and rolled......a 2, -1 for extra armour, I however rolled a 5 and no more Eldar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/04 09:25:10
Subject: Tank shocking with fast-skimmer transports
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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TheTemplar wrote:I played a game with an eldar player who rammed my LRC at full speed with his Fire Prism -which had lost it's main weapon mind you - penentrated and rolled......a 2, -1 for extra armour, I however rolled a 5 and no more Eldar.
You don't get a -1 to damage results from EA...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/04 09:30:14
Subject: Tank shocking with fast-skimmer transports
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Fixture of Dakka
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He probably meant stun was reduced to shaken.. which is like -1 to the table long as you roll a 2.. Probably easier to just say 1-2 is shaken tho!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/02/05 00:50:33
Subject: Tank shocking with fast-skimmer transports
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Black Templar Recruit Undergoing Surgeries
Bendigo, Australia
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Yeah I did mean that it was stunned reduced to shaken. sorry I thought I made it clear...
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