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Will a Terminator 10x sq. infiltrate thanks to the Shrike's ability and then can combat sq. the first turn?

Toban wrote:Will a Terminator 10x sq. infiltrate thanks to the Shrike's ability and then can combat sq. the first turn?

Shrike and his squad can infiltrate but once you combat squad a unit, the 2 squads count as separate units from that point on, and that happens when the unit is deployed, so one combat squad would have Shrike and could infiltrate, the other would not have Shrike and would have to deploy normally.

And, in fact, would be unable to do so - you have to join shrike to the unit (acfording to the FAQ) as you are deploying the unit; at that point you are in the "deploy infiltrators" step which is after the non-infiltrate unit can deploy, meaning they are stuck - they cant deploy

So the only way to do it is to have the unit deploy as a full 10 man squad.

Thanks

nosferatu1001 wrote:And, in fact, would be unable to do so - you have to join shrike to the unit (acfording to the FAQ) as you are deploying the unit; at that point you are in the "deploy infiltrators" step which is after the non-infiltrate unit can deploy, meaning they are stuck - they cant deploy

So the only way to do it is to have the unit deploy as a full 10 man squad.

Not 100% sure about this nosferatu. Please consider;
The FAQ says you nominate which ICs are joining which units at the start of deployment before you place aything on the board.
Combat squads are split when the unit is deployed and the last paragraph says that when you decide to split a unit into combat squads, then each squad is treated as a separate unit from that point.
So couldn't I, at the start of deployment, decide to split a 10 man squad into 2 combat squads and join an IC with one of them?
This would be done, according to the FAQ, before anything is put on the board.
Similar to taking a razorback with a 10 man squad. All 10 can't fit.
So at deployment, I split the squad into combat squads, deploy one in the razorback and the other somewhere else.
Both can be deployed at different times since they are two separate squads.
Or I could split a 10 man scout squad and join a chaplain with one of them.
One squad could still infiltrate, so would deploy last, the other with the chaplain loses infiltrate, so is deployed normally.
The only thing you can't do is split the tac squad deploying one combat squad and reserving the other.

What you miss is that theyre NOT being deployed at different times - theyre being deployed during "normal" deployment

Whereas when you try to split your 10 man squad, deploying half in "normal" deployment and half in "infiltrators" deployment, you ARE deploying them at different times - and thus cannot split them up, as you are not deploying one half of the combat squad, breaking the rule about combat squadding when you deploy.

I love this game, the rules are so easy to follow and straight forward! :-)

Combat squad is just an awkward one, as it breaks a lot of conventions. Same with people grokking the concept of Wolfguard splitting off, and the effect on kill points / dedicated transports, etc.