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So I'm making a list of movies that are either Steampunk or have Steampunk elements. If you know one add it to the list.
Atlantis
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Sky Captain and the world of tommorow
Stardust
Sherlock Holmes
The Time Machine
The Prestige
Treasure Planet
Wild Wild West
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If you re read my OP notice the section that says "Steampunk elements". Every single movie I listed is either Steampunk or has elements of Steampunk in it. Oh and, nothing says that something can't be Steampunk and pulp.
NausicaƤ of the Valley of the Wind The City of Lost Children The Mysterious Geographic Explorations of Jasper Morello Mutant Chronicles The Time Machine The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus Atlantis - The Lost Empire Dark Portals: The Chronicles of Vidocq The Adventures Of Baron Munchausen Sleepy Hollow 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea Hellboy Hellboy II: The Golden Army Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events The Golden Compass Spirited Away Army of Darkness Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow Brazil Franklyn City of Ember Dark City The Fall Metropolis Young Einstein Mary Poppins The African Queen
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Lord Scythican wrote:
The Time Machine
Atlantis - The Lost Empire
Mentioned
Sleepy Hollow
I'm not really sure this is Steampunk I think it's just a period piece. Steampunk is more commonly refered to when the "universe" or alternate history in question has technological advancments beyond what is appropriate for the time and is usually but not always associated with the Victorian and Edwardian era as well as usually opperating by steam power. I don't see how Sleepy Hollow has that?
20,000 Leagues Under The Sea
Of course I don't know how I forgot this one I mean his work was partially what inspired Steampunk.
Hellboy
Hellboy II: The Golden Army
Don't think these are Steampunk either, the movies at least are set in modern (at least recently modern) times and just has alot of paranormal activity.
Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events
Hmmm I'm not real sure about these.
The Golden Compass
Deffinitly
Spirited Away
Army of Darkness
Again I think these are just alot of paranormal activity.
Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow
Mentioned
City of Ember
I always thought this was a wierd movie but maybe, not sure though
Mary Poppins
Again I think this is just a period piece with some imagination thrown in.
Some of these others that people have mentioned I'll have to look into and see and no movies aren't limited to live action (hence why I mentioned Atlantis and Treasure Planet ) keep them coming guys
A lot of steampunk cosplay base their costumes are mary poppins inspired clothes. Heck it has such a steampunk following that their is a lot of art that tries to re imagine MP as more steampunk. But the original movie is there purly for the clothing. Since it is a great source of steampunk cosplay, I would say that is enough for an element.
Hellboy:
The clockwork type function of golden army? Steampunk elements to say the least. Time traveling sand guy from the first one? Abe Sapian's goggles? HB's big ass red hand. IMO it is subtle but in your face as well. More ādieselpunkā and sometimes just considered a mash-up of different genres, but I think the Hellboy movies have a powerful underlying steampunk feel to them. Veteran Steampunk writer Catherynne M. Valente even argues that "Hellboy" is "one of the more steampunk movies ... that has come out in recent years" as Hellboy's fight against an ethereal fairy world parallels the Victorian fight against the encroaching industrial world.
Sleepy Hollow:
Ichabod's "investigative devices" are quite definitely steampunk...
Also, out of the whole list, I would most recommend Franklyn.
Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events:
Other genres that the series have been described as are absurdist fiction, because of its strange characters, quirky writing style and improbable storylines and black comedy, because of the mix of humorous and macabre elements. They have also been classified as 'steampunk'.
Spirited Away:
Mostly just steampunk elements.
Army of Darkness:
The hand. That is all.
City of Ember:
Retro Futuristic all the way.
Personally I think you are trying to see each movie as a in your face Steampunk movie. Like I mentioned with Ichabod's goggles, they are enough to throw it on a list. If you don't believe me, just type in Ichabod's goggles + steampunk in google.
Also out of the whole list, I would most recommend Franklyn.
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Sucker Punch will have strong steampunk elements in it.
Though you may not notice too much.
Last Exile is definately steampunk, the best connexion to the genre I have found but isn't a film but a 24 part anime series. Very good, keeping scale malfunctions and impossible acrobatics to a reasonable minimum, at least for anime.
Though yes, those are chainsaws on the wings of that battleship
It gets bonus points for Alex Rou and the Silvana.
Also the main teenage heroes are suprisingly un-annoying
Automatically Appended Next Post: Here are the Last Exile opening credits, which should be fairly indicative of what you will get. Recommended, even for people like myself who are not regular anime fans.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
A lot of steampunk cosplay base their costumes are mary poppins inspired clothes. Heck it has such a steampunk following that their is a lot of art that tries to re imagine MP as more steampunk. But the original movie is there purly for the clothing. Since it is a great source of steampunk cosplay, I would say that is enough for an element.
There are Steampunk versions of Allan Quatermain that dosen't mean that King Solomons Mines has Steampunk elements in it. Marry Poppins may have inspired Steampunkers that dosen't mean it's Steampunk itself.
Hellboy:
The clockwork type function of golden army?
Having gears isn't clockwork, and the Golden army was created by Goblins and are magic based not steam.
Time traveling sand guy from the first one?
An immortal assassin whose blood was replaced with sand and lives by a magical winder? I do;ot see how that is Steampunk in any way.
Abe Sapian's goggles?
Reverse diver goggles that keep water in instead of out, a technological accessory for an amphibious humanoid. Not Steampunk.
HB's big ass red hand.
Apart of his destiny, it's covered in the movie and book that it's the key intended to open the abyss and release the Oghdu Jahad. And just saying he has a big hand dosen't connect him to Steampunk.
Veteran Steampunk writer Catherynne M. Valente even argues that "Hellboy" is "one of the more steampunk movies ... that has come out in recent years" as Hellboy's fight against an ethereal fairy world parallels the Victorian fight against the encroaching industrial world.
Sorry but I'm not gonna put it in the list.
Sleepy Hollow:
Ichabod's "investigative devices" are quite definitely steampunk...
None of them are steam powered nor are they beyond the technology of the time period.
Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events:
Other genres that the series have been described as are absurdist fiction, because of its strange characters, quirky writing style and improbable storylines and black comedy, because of the mix of humorous and macabre elements. They have also been classified as 'steampunk'.
Alot of movies have strange characters and absurdist fiction that dosen't make them Steampunk. That just means the writer/director had a specific vision of how he wanted the story portrayed. Beetleguise (spelling?) fits the description and isn't Steampunk.
Spirited Away:
Mostly just steampunk elements.
I don't remember any Steampunk elements from that movie, mostly it just delt with various aspects of Japanese mythology (instead of Baba Yaga who is actually a Russian myth) and had very little technology in it.
Army of Darkness:
The hand. That is all.
A bionic hand makes the movie Steampunk? sorry but no
City of Ember:
Retro Futuristic all the way.
I'm still debating this one.
Personally I think you are trying to see each movie as a in your face Steampunk movie. Like I mentioned with Ichabod's goggles, they are enough to throw it on a list. If you don't believe me, just type in Ichabod's goggles + steampunk in google.
Also out of the whole list, I would most recommend Franklyn.
There is a differance between "in your face" steampunk movies and trying to turn things into Steampunk just because they happen to coincide. Goggles have been shown in hundreds of movies, that dosen't make those movies Steampunk. And if people have used certain aspects of movies in creating their own steampunk items that dosen't mean the original source is Steampunk. In my personal opinion you're taking alot of things that are simply apart of a story and trying to fit them in as Steampunk omages. Don't take this wrong but if you want to see some of those movies as Steampunk that's fine, but I don't and won't be putting them on the list. Sorry
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Well, that and the reanimation of dead tissue and then suckin' the energy out of Frankenstein's monster with electricity to quicken an army of dracula spawn.
Automatically Appended Next Post: and Kate Beckinsale. She always adds one point, no matter the topic at hand.
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Bromsy wrote:Well, that and the reanimation of dead tissue and then suckin' the energy out of Frankenstein's monster with electricity to quicken an army of dracula spawn.
Frankenstien is Steampunk?
Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
There have been Steampunk versions of Frankenstien and the Frankenstien from the Van Helsing movie MAY (kinda doubt it) be considered something Steampunk, that being said Mary Shelly's original Frankenstien (great book by the way, so is the Heart of Darkness) isn't.
Now keep in mind that a director/writer putting something into a movie and having an unrealistic representation of it for coolness factor dosen't exactly make it Steampunk. Now yes I do think that Van Helsing has Steampunk elements in it but I also think that the elements in the movie wern't put into it to resemble Steampunk they just happen to.
For example the gadgets from Wild Wild West could just be something that the writers/director put into the movie for a cool factor. But given that most of the items (The giant Spider, Lovelless' wheelchair, the Tank) where beyond the capabilities of the time period, where steam powered and took place during the Victorian era (if I remember right Will Smiths character describes that he was once a soldier who fought during the Civil War which took place during the Victorian era) then it's reasonable that since it fits pretty much all of the criteria that regularly defines Steampunk then that's what it is and not just some cool things the film makers put in.
If we open this up a bit I would also recommend The Adventures of Brisco County Jr and the Wild Wild West TV show if you can get your hands on it, as far as TV shows.
Castle Falkenstein, Deadlands, and the GURPS Steampunk book as far as RP
And as far as books go, The Difference Engine is pretty awesome, despite a deplorable lack of zeppelins.
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Warboss Imbad Ironskull wrote:There have been Steampunk versions of Frankenstien and the Frankenstien from the Van Helsing movie MAY (kinda doubt it) be considered something Steampunk, that being said Mary Shelly's original Frankenstien (great book by the way, so is the Heart of Darkness) isn't.
Now keep in mind that a director/writer putting something into a movie and having an unrealistic representation of it for coolness factor dosen't exactly make it Steampunk. Now yes I do think that Van Helsing has Steampunk elements in it but I also think that the elements in the movie wern't put into it to resemble Steampunk they just happen to.
For example the gadgets from Wild Wild West could just be something that the writers/director put into the movie for a cool factor. But given that most of the items (The giant Spider, Lovelless' wheelchair, the Tank) where beyond the capabilities of the time period, where steam powered and took place during the Victorian era (if I remember right Will Smiths character describes that he was once a soldier who fought during the Civil War which took place during the Victorian era) then it's reasonable that since it fits pretty much all of the criteria that regularly defines Steampunk then that's what it is and not just some cool things the film makers put in.
Well yeah, I was kind of scraping the bottom of the barrel with VanHelsing, most of the big ones have been mentioned already. Steampunk is really hard to nail down as a genre, since it's so all over the place. The victorian aspect is big, but there are so many branch outs from there into different themes, as well as fantasy worlds and other time periods. Oh snap, that reminds me - have any of you played Arcanum? Now that was awesome.
You should take steam punk elements out of the OP then. I didn't realize you wanted tech that was powered by steam. Purists ignore stuff like Hellboy but it shows up on most of the top ten steampunk inspired movies lists. Go figure. I would probably classify it more as diselpunk myself but it is inspired by steampunk which warrants it being on a list. Steampunk itself is also inspired by movies that are not steampunk, such as Mary Poppins. I am not trying to fit anything in the steampunk ornages. Everything on my list was pulled from many other lists on the net, with every suggestion showing up multiple times. A lot of the suggestions are there because they have inspired the steampunk genre itself.
BTW I realize you disagree with a lot of steam punk enthusiasts. You obviously are a purest when it comes to steampunk. There is no convincing you, but I am wondering why are you only picking apart the ones you don't believe are steampunk inspired? That list has quite a few good ones that you have not comment on. You seem to have browsed through it and saw many you didn't agree with and decided the rest wasn't worth your time. There ar eplenty on there that are "in your face" steampunk. Don't be such a negative nancy.
Also City of Ember is pretty widely accepted as a Steampunk movie everywhere but on your list. it is full of retrotech which is one of the key elements of a steampunk movie. It doesn't have to be powered by steam you know.
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Alot of this is going to come over as rude and I apologise but this isn't a debate and you know nothing about me so many of these statements ticked me off.
Lord Scythican wrote:You should take steam punk elements out of the OP then.
Why because I didn't put some of the movies you suggested into my list? nothing is being removed just because you don't like what I've done. This thread isn't tailored to you.
I didn't realize you wanted tech that was powered by steam.
In 2,000 Leagues Under the Sea Nemos ship is nuclear powered not steam, and nothing from The Compas is powered by steam. So what you've "realized" is wrong.
Purists ignore stuff like Hellboy but it shows up on most of the top ten steampunk inspired movies lists. Go figure. I would probably classify it more as diselpunk myself but it is inspired by steampunk which warrants it being on a list.
Before you label me a "purist" how about you take into account the fact that I do have a personal opinion and can apply it to anything I want including movies that I believe aren't Steampunk and that that dosen't put me under any catagory. And wether or not you think Hellboy should be on a list that dosen't mean it is going to be in my list.
Steampunk itself is also inspired by movies that are not steampunk, such as Mary Poppins.
You are repeating exactly what I said
I am not trying to fit anything in the steampunk ornages. Everything on my list was pulled from many other lists on the net, with every suggestion showing up multiple times.
If you and others want to believe that Hellboy having a big hand and Abe wearing goggles makes the Hellboy movie Steampunk then fine you're free to it. That dosen't mean I'm going to agree with some list that you found online.
A lot of the suggestions are there because they have inspired the steampunk genre itself.
And yet I didn't ask for movies that could inspire Steampunk. I'm well aware of the enfluences on Steampunk and I don't need to cited to be, hence why I didn't ask for them.
BTW I realize you disagree with a lot of steam punk enthusiasts.
Since you coulden't possibly know every single enthusiast this statement is innacurate at best
You obviously are a purest when it comes to steampunk.
You know absolutly nothing about me and I would appreciate it if you woulden't try and label me as anything based off of the idea that I didn't put every movie you mentioned into my list.
There is no convincing you,
And there is obviouslty no way to get you to get over the fact that I didn't put every movie you mentioned into my list which has caused you to try and lable me.
but I am wondering why are you only picking apart the ones you don't believe are steampunk inspired? That list has quite a few good ones that you have not comment on. You seem to have browsed through it and saw many you didn't agree with and decided the rest wasn't worth your time. There ar eplenty on there that are "in your face" steampunk. Don't be such a negative nancy.
Before you go around calling someone a "negative nancy" you should really double check what's been written. I stated why certain movies woulden't be put into my list which is better then just saying "no these won't go in" and at the end of my response to your list I said as a general statement to everyone that I would have to look into the others (ergo the ones I haden't mentioned). I would have to look into them because I had not seen them. So you're assumptions about what i seemed to do are wrong.
Also City of Ember is pretty widely accepted as a Steampunk movie everywhere but on your list. it is full of retrotech which is one of the key elements of a steampunk movie. It doesn't have to be powered by steam you know.
Maybe you didn't get it when I said I was still considering this movie and to be honest I don't really care about what is widely accepted or about any list that you found online. And also if you'll read my deffinition I posted about Steampunk you'll note that I never said the technology had to be powered by steam and many movies in the list have technology not powered by steam so I'd appreciate it if you didn't try and talk to me as if you are more knowledgable then I am considering many aspects of Steampunk aren't powered by steam which is something I'm well aware of. You are actually the one who has tried to break Steampunk down into catagories, not me.
Bottom line is you suggested some movies that I don't think are Steampunk and so haven't put them in my list. You don't like it fine, grow up and get over it. Don't sit here and try and break down what I am and what I've done just because you think I'm wrong and feel you need to educate me. The world is not going to end if I don't put the movies you suggested into my list. Now unless you have anymore suggestions of movies I'm going to add you to my ignore list because I'm not gonna sit here and argue with someone just because they didn't like what I did.
Anyway now that that is hopefully done and over with as a general thing I would like to keep this in movies. I know that there are ALOT of other media that could be in the list and maybe we'll get into that later but for now I'd like to keep it in movies thanks
Yeah its done. I browsed your comments. Have fun with your list. Just trying to help dude, but you are way to negative. You still need to look at my list some more. There are quite a few on there they are must haves for a steampunk list that you are overlooking. Movies like Franklyn should be on the list no matter what you think about Hellboy. If you are not even going to look into the other half of my list, then what's the point of making the thread?
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Chrysaor686 wrote:You really shouldn't ask people for advice if you're just going to do everything in your power to shoot down everything that comes your way.
And yet I did nothing of the sort, funny how many people on this site think that just because someone is asking for suggestions or advice that they have to take or use what's given. If I don't think something is Steampunk it isn't going on my list, if you or anyone else dosen't like it well then you'll have to deal with it because I'm not here to babysit or play nurse maid for you.
I'm sure most of us have better things to do.
Then by all means go do it, nothing is making you post or read the thread so how about you stop wasting my time with innacurate accusations. Seriously there are a number of people on this site need to grow up and learn how to read what is actually said and quit wineing about how they do;ot always get there way. That applies to you as well Lord Scythian since you obviously didn't read what I said since you just "browsed" my comments.
And quiet honestly I don't care if this thread is closed anymore, call me rude call me whatever you want. People like you are immature and I'm tired of it. You can't deal with the fact that I do;ot think some of the movies you've suggested aren't Steampunk and so you keep coming back "they should be on the list, they should be on the list" well I've made it pretty clear they won't be. that isn't being negative, that isn't shooting down "advice" that is me excercising my right to not use every piece of dribble that's posted on a thread.
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Chrysaor686 wrote:You really shouldn't ask people for advice if you're just going to do everything in your power to shoot down everything that comes your way.
That's a terrible thing to do! Too bad that's not the case here, OP just disagreed with someone that's all.
Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
Chrysaor686 wrote:You really shouldn't ask people for advice if you're just going to do everything in your power to shoot down everything that comes your way.
That's a terrible thing to do! Too bad that's not the case here, OP just disagreed with someone that's all.