Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

If model A has an AOE and recieves the thunderbolt and hits model B with a crit knockdown do models C and D get knocked down as well, and do they all move the d3 or does each one get a d3?

Which model are you talking about?

The only AoE I know of that can get Thunderbolt is a Mule being marshalled by ATGMs in an Ashlynn list.

In general though, I believe it affects everyone. Last I read it, thunderbolt affected models "hit" i.e. everything under the template, not just models "directly hit" i.e. the target of the attack.

if there is a grenadier marshaled to gun mages, receives the thunderbolt for a shot hits model A and there are 2 other models in the AOE. I suppose is the best way to describe it.

Are they all moved at the same time?

Crit effects?

Different d3 for each target.

Attacker chooses the order they are affected.

All affected by the crit (since it says model hit and not directly hit)

That's my guess.

IIRC, Explosivo only crits the model hit. That should work the same way.

Unless the gun itself has an AoE, it should only be the model directly hit gets slammed. For example, if Gunbjorn throws Explosivo on a Troll Impaler, only the one guy that is directly hit will suffer the slam effect. Everyone else just takes blast damage.

12thRonin wrote:IIRC, Explosivo only crits the model hit. That should work the same way.

That would be because Explosivo states that only models directly hit suffer additional effects from the weapon. Thunderbolt works perfectly well with AoEs, be they from a Grenadier, a Mule, or a Mariner, and so does Crit Brutal Damage.

It depends on the wording.

Hit vs. directly hit.

Critical hit from zealot bombs light everything on fire, for example.