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I was looking at 3 tervigon lists and decided to look at going the whole hog:

HQ tervigon, catalyst, adrenal, toxin 195
HQ tervigon, catalyst, adrenal, toxin 195

Elite 2 * hive guard 100
Elite 2 * hive guard 100

Troop 10 termagants 50
Troop 10 termagants 50
Troop 10 termagants 50
Troop tervigon, catalyst, adrenal, toxin 195
Troop tervigon, catalyst, adrenal, toxin 195
Troop tervigon, catalyst, adrenal, toxin 195

That's 1,325 - looking at a 1,500 point list. Problem here is now I'm stuck. Do I go venomthropes or more hive guard for the elite slots? Do all tervigons need the fulll upgrades? Crushing claws on some of them?

I'm also worried about a hammer CC unit - so I stick some ymgarls in my 3rd elite slot? I'd love to get a trygon in there as well as a 6th MC, but that would mean dropping a hive guard brood so probably not.

Any thoughts? I want to stick to 1,500 as anywhere above that I think the list is too easily countered.

Hmm, I know nothign but, can you find 5pts? Then you could take another HG, and a 'Thrope. But generally more HG are gold-dust.


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You need anti-tanking... Four hive guards wont do the trick... So I'd definitely add them...

So we add a third hive gaurd brood - another 100 points so 1,425. What to do with the rest? Can any tervigons be downgraded?

I think you'll survive without catalyst on HQ tervigons... I'd add even more hive guards for that (3x3)...
Biggest downside of tervigon list is that if opponent locks himself at table edge, you'll have long way to go to get to him... Perhaps adding some outflankers? Like genestealers? I'd drop one tervigon from HQ slot and think about that... It will make opponent think twice before getting in the corners... But I am not nid player, so you should see other reactions for this

You don't 'need' Adrenal and Toxins on the Tervigons, but it certainly helps.
If you want to keep 5 Tervigons (which i presume you do) Then you definatly want 3x2 Hive guard
Maybe some Spore Mines?

It makes termagaunts dangerous... But I don't think you need both upgrades... +1I and +1S when charging and poison 4+... +1S is not as good with poison... Initiative helps, but hey...

Chinchilla wrote:You need anti-tanking... Four hive guards wont do the trick... So I'd definitely add them...

In concour then add onslaught onto the Tervigons to use up points. You may only get one use out of it but could be useful first turn if you run. Onslaught on all Tervigons is 75 points in total making it 1,500 on the nail

Ok then. Updated 1,500 point list:

HQ tervigon, catalyst, onslaught, adrenal, toxin 210
HQ tervigon, catalyst, onslaught, adrenal, toxin 210

Elite 2 * hive guard 100
Elite 2 * hive guard 100
Elite 2 * hive guard 100

Troop 10 termagants 50
Troop 10 termagants 50
Troop 10 termagants 50
Troop tervigon, catalyst, onslaught,adrenal, toxin 210
Troop tervigon, catalyst, onslaught,adrenal, toxin 210
Troop tervigon, catalyst, onslaught,adrenal, toxin 210.

Better get on and build those tervigons then ...

Spot on . Let me know who you get on.

I would cut the 5 adrenald glans for yet one more hive guard.

You list is radicaly cool, but if it meets a lott of eldar or landspeeders or something similar you have a problem.

Please post an update on how it preforms, I have often had dreams about that list!

Yeah, pls... It's totally cool list that I wanted to build for a long time... Tested it on vassal, but I don't like playing on it:p
So do some battle reports

I think you list would really benefit from dropping a HQ tervigon to add a Hive Tyrant with a HVC, LW/BS and Old Adversary and Hive Commander. This improves your list by letting you outflank a tervigon to provide another direction to attack the enemy from and also greatly improves the CC efficency of the list with the re-rolls to hit. You can drop onslaught on some of the tervigons to find the points

Tyrants need Tyrant Guard if on foot and costs a lot lot more than a Tervigon. Bad idea.

While tyrant guard are nice, there are certainly not necessary in a list with so much cover available and the tyrant suggested costs a whopping 10 pts more than the Tervigons in the list currently. The ability to make many surrounding units give 25% more hits in CC and to give a very slow foot list a much greater degree of mobility, plus the addition of great psychic powers like Paroxyism and Leech Essence are certainly worth the 10 points.

Tyrant with HVC, old adversary and hive commander like you suggested costs 245 points if my maths is correct hardly 10 points more than a Tervigon, even with Tervigon wargear. If you're going to correct me on comparing units and points costs make sure you use the suggestions you offered

Tyrant will hardly get any cover nor will any of the monstrous creatures as not enough Hive Guard. A Tyrant on foot always always has a Guard which you then get cover from Termagants....another fail :(

I would drop onslaught on all the Tervigons. It is a cool psychic ability, but you can only use one per turn. If you are making your guys feel no pain, you won't be able to onslaught. or mix it up. Each tervigon doesn't need both.

Agreed. More hive guard, or a biovore or 2.