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Is this list at all good? Id like to keep as many guns as possible and shy away from too many units. What do you think?

Sloan force : 50 pts

Kara Sloan +6
Charger 4
Firefly 5
Grenadier 5
Hunter 6
Hunter 6
Sentinel 4
Cyclone 9
Defender 9
Trencher Cannon 3
Trencher Cannon 3
Trencher Chain Gun 2

Total: 56

That is a LOT of 'jacks. I don't think there is a single warcaster out there that can support 8 'jacks. Even my Abby T4 list (which allows for NO infantry) has a hard time managing her 7 beasts, and warlocks are better at handling a large number of 'beasts than 'casters are at handling a large jumber of 'jacks. Abby is one of the best because of free upkeeps. I understand for her feat turn this would be awesome, but if that doesn't win the game for you, you're done. Also, an army with a lot of stealth is going to ruin your day. In fact, if anything with a good melee presence gets in your face, it's going to be game over. If you are going for straight assassinations, I think it has the potential. Otherwise, you just won't be able to hold objectives well.

And pray you don't fight a 'jack heavy Menoth list.

She can't run that many jacks. The only Cygnarian caster who can would be epic Nemo on the feat turn.

Stealth, clouds and fast movers will wreck you. 6 of the 8 jacks are lights that will go down quick once something gets on them.

Don't forget there are scenarios and stuff that moves further than you can shoot.

With out making two many changes i'd drop a cannon and i would add a journeyman warcaster to take the strain off abby.Also i would drop the firefly and the scatter gun even in a shooty list i would take a unit which can hold up n close combat like a unit of swordknights or storm guard.

Junior wouldn't help in this case since once a jack is out of the battle group, they don't get the extra shots generated from the feat. All Junior would do is make them spend and extra focus or fury to buy the third attack that kills Kara after they get on her since all he's doing is being an arc shield battery.

if your not running here tier, there is no reason to NOT take reinholt. extra shot on a gun casters? gold.

I am fond of this one,

Captain Kara Sloan
Hunter
Hunter
Defender
Arcane Tempest Gun Mages
Arcane Tempest Gun Mage Officer
Cyclone
Cyclone
Black 13th
Strangeways
Trencher Master Gunner
Rhupert/Gorman
Reinholdt, Gobber Speculator

That's alot of points depending on the Dude being alive. Infantry hordes are gong to cause it trouble as well.

they have to make it through 18 inches of aoes to get there

That's turn 1 for a Satyxis list. WGDS will giggle at it as well. The Cyclones AoE doesn't hit what it is placed on. The only damage AoE you have are Ryan and the Gun Mages. 4" and a 3" isn't that scary.

An 18 inch Defensive pow 12-14 AOE line is just fun to watch people run infantry ALL THE WAY AROUND. Forgive the ignorance what is WGDS?

...Try this out with proxied models a few times, trust me it isn't what you think it is...

SlickBastard wrote:An 18 inch Defensive pow 12-14 AOE line is just fun to watch people run infantry ALL THE WAY AROUND. Forgive the ignorance what is WGDS?

Winter Guard Death Star. Max WG with UA, 3 rocketeers, and Kovnik Joe.

Wait till they start running through it, laughing cause it tickled, and locks you up. About every army has at least one hard counter to this plan.

Why does it tickle the WGDS?

They get Tough, but passing that will knock them down. What am I forgetting?

That wasn't clear. The they was referring to the opponent in general figuring out not to be afraid and to run heavy armored things through the AOEs, not the WGDS.