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Lord:
Savage Ork Warboss
-Great Weapon
-Shield
-Wyvern Mount

Core:
10x Forest Goblin Spider Riders
-Spider Rider Boss

10x Forest Goblin Spider Riders
-Spider Rider Boss

10x Forest Goblin Spider Riders
-Spider Rider Boss

Special:
10x Savage Boar Riders
-Boar Boy Boss
-Standard Bearer

10x Savage Boar Riders
-Boar Boy Boss
-Standard Bearer

Rare:
Arachnarok Spider
-Flinger

Total: 1489


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3 Arachnaroks how much are they point wise?

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/02/21 10:10:47



 
   
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heacy hitter wrote:3 Arachnaroks how much are they point wise?

I think 1 is 290+ points ...

Bad_Sheep, remember that you can only have 25% of your points each in lord / hero / rare, in which case I'm pretty sure you're at least over in the rare category! I might think about getting some kind of block unit, maybe a hearty unit of savage orcs in place of 1 spider? Fits the theme (ish?), and 8th really is more focused on blocks of killy things killing things.

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well the 1 Arachnarok is for the Lord, but even then i guess your right. I would be over the 25%


 
   
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Boss Salvage wrote:
heacy hitter wrote:3 Arachnaroks how much are they point wise?

I think 1 is 290+ points ...

Really?! if its about 290 I don't think I will include one in my army when it comes out.


 
   
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yeah its 290 without the upgrades. I just love the model and want to field MCs.

I would like the keep the majority of my Force Goblins only because I like the idea. If it would suck to bad, I wouldnt mind tossing in a few orcs.

Thats a little unfortunate that im over the 25% rare slot. I will repost a tweaked list thats legal tonight once i look over the codex a bit more. Thanks for being patient.


 
   
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Bad_Sheep37 wrote:Lord:
Goblin Great Shaman
-Arachnarok Spider


Note that, with this right here, you're only looking at a Ld. 7 general for your army. This is not that brave an army, as it will pretty much fail 50% of all Leadership Tests it is forced to make, and unlike 40K there's a few more ways to cause panic than 25% damage on a single unit (For example, a unit being destroyed within 6", a unit fleeing through another unit, panic test-forcing magic spells and equipment, Terror, etcetera).

You'll probably want to see if you can fit in at least a cheapo Common Goblin Warboss somewhere. One of those, added in, provides you at least with Ld. 8, which increases your odds ever so slightly to not fail half your tests.

Bad_Sheep37 wrote:Core:
10x Forest Goblin Spider Riders
-Spider Rider Boss

10x Forest Goblin Spider Riders
-Spider Rider Boss

10x Forest Goblin Spider Riders
-Spider Rider Boss

I don't think this will sum up 25% of your total points. You need at least 25% of your total army in Core, point-wise not model-wise.

Bad_Sheep37 wrote:Rare:
Arachnarok Spider
-Flinger

Arachnarok Spider
-Flinger

Total: 1495
You aren't going to be able to take two Arachnarok's for a 1500pt list. At 290-ish points / Arachnarok, you'll need at least a 2400pt list. Rare can only take up to 25% of your total points.

Bad_Sheep37 wrote:I really wanted to go for a themed type of army. I'm pretty competitive in the 40k world so I decided to go more theme and fun with the Fantasy. With that said, I do want the list to be worth building though. Its never fun to lose every single game. Thanks for the input in advance.

If you're trying to fit multiple Arachnaroks at under 2000, I think you need at least a 1750pt list (Since a Great Shaman on an Arachnarok is going to be limited by being a max of 25% of your force's points as well). At 1750, this would leave you with the Great Shaman on an Arachnarok and another Arachnarok for the points. If you upgrade to 2000, and looking for a lot of big stuff, you could then fit in a Giant painted up with some Spider-like items. Heck, maybe even make it a giant mutated Goblin-Spider monstrosity. Just make sure it's properly based and you clarify ahead of the game it'd count as such, and you'd have three large spidery creatures.

Assuming you keep below-2000, and you want to keep a Spider theme, there's a few options still:

Convert some Goblins to represent regular Forest Goblins. You can use either Night Goblin or Common Goblin rules. Here, essentially, you're making some Forest Goblin Infantry. Your list looks to be more spider themed though, so instead, perhaps you could work on "Spider Chariots" for special?

Core, having to be at least 25% of your points, with 25% filled for Lord this way and a significant chunk (All but 147 points) of your rare as well, leaves you with only about 33% of your points remaining after the minimal Core is put out. You could either spend the points here on additional core, some characters, or some Special.

For Characters, you'd - if seeking to play competitive - pretty much want an Orc Big Boss put in some unit converted in a Forest Goblin-y manner. Leadership 8 isn't much, but it's what OnG use to be limited to in sub-2K point games before 8th Edition. Placing him in a "Spider-Drawn" Chariot might work best, said chariot being a Boar Chariot just converted with Spiders at the fore instead. That should only take about a third of the points you had remaining, so you would have maybe 400pts left. That could be split between more Spider Riders (either more units, or bigger units. If more, I'd suggest lots of smaller units over a few ten-big, and if bigger units I'd go at least 12-big for each), Command for your units, additional characters, or some Chariots (Again, converted to be pulled by spiders). All of that could also, thematically, be made to fit a Forest Goblin-y Spider list.

Keep in mind, with two Arachnaroks and playing the minimal points to take 'em, you probably aren't going to win much on the tourney scene. In-store, you might do sorta well as provided you consistently do wounds with Archnaroks you can at least tie combats for a while (Arachnarok here would do better versus T3 armies than T4). Most of your might would come from a Loremaster Goblin, which is risky as you need to hope it never miscasts, and from any Special Choices / Heroes you might buy. Without any Infantry, you're going to struggle, but Bretonnians have found ways to work around it.
   
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List update. I decided to ditch the theme only because I didn't like what I saw in terms of strength etc.

Minsc, thanks a ton for the reply. That really helped me out. I never even thought of the leadership issue especially since there are several ways to cause leadership tests. I'm hoping my new list looks a little better. Thanks guys!



 
   
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At the very very least, I'd add musicians to every unit that can take them (before adding champs, in fact, so there are points you can grab), and slap the ironcurse icon on the wyvern rider. Even then, keeping the big guy around longer would be great (like a real ward save for him?), as without a BSB you might still be hurting in the LD department.

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