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2011/02/21 09:43:11
Subject: First Attempt, Skaven 1500
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Paingiver
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I posted this up on the general forum about starting my Skaven army http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/347915.page
I am probably going to return the Doomwheel for a 2nd Warp Lightening Cannon
I am looking at this list to get my foot in the door, I will only need to pick up a plague priest to add.
Chieftain
- BSB
-Enchanted Shield
-Tailsman of Preservation
120
Plague Priest
-Lvl2
-Gamblers Armor
-Ruby Ring
180
Warlock Engineer
-Doomrocket
45
50 Slaves
-Shields
125
50 Slaves
-Shields
125
40 Clanrats
-Shields
- FC
-Warpfire Thrower
270
40 Clanrats
-Shields
- FC
-Poison Wind Mortar
260
4 Rat Ogres
-Master Bred
-2 Packmasters
191
Warp Light Cannon
Warp Light Cannon
180
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Thus, After having thus successively taken each member of the community in its powerful grasp and fashioned him at will, the supreme power then extends its arm over the whole community. It covers the surface of society with a network of small complicated rules, minute and uniform, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate, to rise above the crowd. The will of man is not shattered, but softened, bent, and guided; men are seldom forced by it to act, but they are constantly restrained from acting. Such a power does not destroy, but it prevents existence; it does not tyrannize, but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd
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2011/02/21 10:38:14
Subject: First Attempt, Skaven 1500
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Angry Chaos Agitator
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I'm new to skaven in 8th edition (have played them for like a decade but not since early 6th ed, mostly before that). But, for what its worth, with my lack of 8th ed experience, I like your armylist! Think it looks just fine  I am myself in the process of re-building my skaven for 8th ed., with IoB minis, new cool kits etc. and I plan to bring something quite similar.
You have got some good main blocks with good weapon teams as well as good slave tarpit blocks. Good support from Cannons and Rat ogres as wel 
One thing i would personally not do (and have never done) is to leave home without a Grey Seer though... So i would recommend getting him in there! You could simply drop the Plague Priest. Then you only need another 60 pts to get the Grey Seer. Drop the warlock engineer and 1 rat ogre. And you are set
The Grey Seer brings alot: Being a General with a higher Ld (7) than the Plague Priest, meaning that your blocks will be a Ld10 within 12" of him. And he is a Lvl 4 wizard, meaning he will be a better caster + dispeller (a lot better magic defence). At least this i how i see from reading the new 8th ed. rules. And lastly: He can really make a difference i think as he has access to 4 spells from the awesome Lore of Ruin and/or Lore of Plague.
Well, thats my take at least. But take it for what it is, i have yet to PLAY my first game since 6th ed........
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2011/02/21 10:52:15
Subject: Re:First Attempt, Skaven 1500
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Sneaky Lictor
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I dunno, I like that this list doesn't have a Grey Seer and a Hell Pit Abomination. I think it would work really well despite not having those things.
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2011/02/21 14:44:22
Subject: First Attempt, Skaven 1500
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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I dig it, skaven are more fun for everybody when you don't take all the toys (and you've got the doomrocket anyway, one of the nastiest when luck's behind it).
One legality thing though: your priest can't take magical armor, since he's a wizard who doesn't have a rule that says he can (ala chaos).
My suggestion: your priest is your general? So a pretty important fellow, who is also liable to miscast and have other bad things (feedback scroll, etc) done to him. I suggest a better ward than 6+, so .... Swap the enchanted shield [10] on the BSB with a mundane shield [2] (his 4/4+ save will be more than he needs), then swap the illegal gambler's armor [20] for a foul pendant [30], then use your last [2] points to buy him an additional hand weapon.
EDIT
Damn, ruby ring is 25 isn't it? I don't know what I'd do then (probably get rid of the ring!), but somehow get him more protection ... Maybe seed of rebirth + scrying stone? This would also free up [5] points from my scheme above, good to either get the BSB ironcurse icon or a biting blade, or to give the slaves musicians (which is IMO a good idea).
- Salvage
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2011/02/21 22:57:12
Subject: Re:First Attempt, Skaven 1500
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Paingiver
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Thanks for the tip guys, looks like I'll be looking at one of these 2 lists to start:
Chieftain
-BSB
-Enchanted Shield
-Tailsman of Preservation
120
Plague Priest
-Lvl2
-Foul Pendant
180
Warlock Engineer
-Doomrocket
45
50 Slaves
-Shields
-Musician
127
50 Slaves
-Shields
-Musician
127
40 Clanrats
-Shields
-FC
-Warpfire Thrower
270
40 Clanrats
-Shields
-FC
-Poison Wind Mortar
260
4 Rat Ogres
-Master Bred
-2 Packmasters
191
Warp Light Cannon
Warp Light Cannon
180
1500
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Chieftain
-BSB
-Enchanted Shield
-Tailsman of Preservation
120
GraySeer
-Foul Pendant
270
50 Slaves
-Shields
-Musician
127
48 Slaves
-Shields
-Musician
122
40 Clanrats
-Shields
-FC
-Warpfire Thrower
270
40 Clanrats
-Shields
-FC
-Poison Wind Mortar
260
3 Rat Ogres
-Master Bred
-2 Packmasters
151
Warp Light Cannon
Warp Light Cannon
180
1500
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Thus, After having thus successively taken each member of the community in its powerful grasp and fashioned him at will, the supreme power then extends its arm over the whole community. It covers the surface of society with a network of small complicated rules, minute and uniform, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate, to rise above the crowd. The will of man is not shattered, but softened, bent, and guided; men are seldom forced by it to act, but they are constantly restrained from acting. Such a power does not destroy, but it prevents existence; it does not tyrannize, but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd
-Alexis de Tocqueville. |
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