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Mech vets with 2 extra wounds and bolters instead of lasguns for 4 points cheaper, CHECKED!.

Aircav, CHECKED!.

2++ save, CHECKED!.

Kick ass cheap monstruous creature, CHECKED!.

Kick ass troops all around, CHECKED!.

Seriously, this is getting slowed, every codex that comes out obliterates every one that came before, by the last 5th edition codex you will get s5 rending assault 3 pieplates for like 10 points...

'Ere We Go! Again!

Been done to death, been shown to be a crock, move along everyone, nothing to see here.

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I am going to attempt to /Thread this topic by saying the points completely justify everything in the codex. Please calm down.

"OMG it's so broken" "It'll beat every codex ever"

Why do we have to do this every time a new codex comes out?

Guess what - once you've seen the codex and played with or against it a few times you'll realise that it's not all that. Like every other codex.

P.S. The sky is not falling.

BUT GUISE HENCHMEN CAN HAVE CHEEP MELTAS

(ignoring the fact that they're T3 and needs a special character to even count as troops.)


Really, everything that isn't =][= or a dreadknight is silly expensive. When we first got the leaked copy, we made an entirely legal 1500 point with sixteen models.

But I doubt you'd be decking them out properly. Even if you load up on Paladins and Terminators, they don't all need to take that 2++. Just enough to screw around with wound allocation and make you nigh-invulnerable to the scary stuff. Then slap FNP onto the Paladins and you've got a very meaty hammer.

And being T3 and needing a 100 point special character isn't particularly prohibitive. Hell, for 1008 points (not including Coteaz), you can put 72 plasma guns on the table. T3 be damned, that's going to fry something.

72 plasmas that are going to earn 3 years of bragging from TFG, 2 years of complaining how the Ork/Tau/Eldar/Zoats army kicks his army's butt quite often, and a lifetime of moaning after his list gets invalidated with the next codex.

Yes. Let's wait until the codex comes out and we all have a legitimate copy in our hands.

What's the point of baking a cake if noone will eat it?

orangutan army go!

The Cake is a lie.

Cerebrium wrote:BUT GUISE HENCHMEN CAN HAVE CHEEP MELTAS

(ignoring the fact that they're T3 and needs a special character to even count as troops.)


Really, everything that isn't =][= or a dreadknight is silly expensive. When we first got the leaked copy, we made an entirely legal 1500 point with sixteen models.

Wolves can do the same with 13 or less, thats not the point.

Wolves can do the same with 13 or less, thats not the point.

Actually, that is the point.
You pay for such upgrades.
Now, once you have forked out on a few nice toys, your army is getting smaller and smaller.

I rather face a tooled up GK army than a green tide.
So what if they have some great items? they still die none the less.

xxvaderxx wrote: every codex that comes out

See, that's where you're wrong. There is currently no Grey Knight Codex.

Just Dave wrote:

xxvaderxx wrote: every codex that comes out

See, that's where you're wrong. There is currently no Grey Knight Codex.

See, that's where he's right. Every time a new codex comes out, people cry foul and rage at all the OP'ness. What he means is that this time probably won't be different.

AlmightyWalrus wrote:

Just Dave wrote:

xxvaderxx wrote: every codex that comes out

See, that's where you're wrong. There is currently no Grey Knight Codex.

See, that's where he's right. Every time a new codex comes out, people cry foul and rage at all the OP'ness. What he means is that this time probably won't be different.

No, he was already complaining at the GK Codex being overpowered. Whether or not it is or even released.

If he was saying, as you have just said, that everytime a Codex comes out people complain/ "cry foul and rage at all the OP'ness", then I would agree.

He wasn't saying this however, he was saying that they are overpowered etc.

Yep, this just sounds like when Dark Eldar were coming out. And when Blood Angels were coming out. And when Space Wolves were coming out...

I really like it that there is a new codex incoming, so people will stop complaining about Dark Eldar

Dude, just field 180 Ork Boyz.

It's the answer to everything.

And anyway, this codex is a Marine Codex, meaning that there is going to be a small number of units on the table, and with everyone and their mother getting a PW, it's going to be fun to take down the TFG.

Melissia wrote:What's the point of baking a cake if noone will eat it?

I always wondered at that expression...

purplefood wrote:

Melissia wrote:What's the point of baking a cake if noone will eat it?

I always wondered at that expression...

To test your baking skills I'd assume.

I have always hated that expression. Almost as much as when people say "I could care less"

Kurgash wrote:

purplefood wrote:

Melissia wrote:What's the point of baking a cake if noone will eat it?

I always wondered at that expression...

To test your baking skills I'd assume.

You may as well eat it... unless you were gonna sell it but the someone else would be having your cake and eating it...