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Will be playing vs Chaos Marines. 10-15 man tact squad w/heavybolter, 8-10 zerkers w/champion Pfist, 5 possesed, Rhino with a Dprince w/Wings and mark of Nurgle.

Teh list

Farsser, Doom plus spear
3 Guardian Jetbikes plain
3 Guardian Jetbikes plain
9 Banshees with Exarch + Triskele + Acrobatic
Wave Serpent EML and underslung cannon
Fireprism plain
Swordlord EML

Mini Hammer and Anvil tactic. Swordlord acts as anvil, Banshees as Hammer. Prism longrange support, Bikes as harassment and Objective takers/contesters.

Was tossing around the idea of dropping the Swordlord and 2 Banshees and grabbing a Avatar or another Prism just to be mean.

Comments, Ideas, Please feel free.

I like banshees. They are a decent unit, and will hit many of the units in his list pretty hard. The preferred war gear for the exarch is the executioner, the extra boost in strength is much needed, and since you can only assault out of a wave serpent that hasn't moved you'll be fleeting most of the time to get into CC.

The rest of your list could use a bit of work. A sword lord, or avatar, will get left behind in this list. You really should aspire to take a mainly mechanized force. A single cc oriented slow unit won't add much.

A fire prism, by itself isn't that useful. Really if you aren't taking 2 or 3, you'd be better off with a Night Spinner.

Since this is such a low point game, its really in your best interest to put as many guns on your troops as possible. With doom support, you'd be suprised at how much hurt a squad of GJB can actually put out in low point games.

to demonstrate what I'm talking about, I'd suggest running a list like this

Farseer- Runes of Warding, Doom

you know what doom does, but runes of warding denies his demon prince warp time.

10 Banshees-exarch, executioner, acrobatic
Wave Serpent- EML

I understand why you want the underslung cannon, but dropping it lets you fit in 2 war walkers later. 2 shuriken cannons > 1

2x 3GJB w/ Warlock- cannon, spear, destructor

this squad is not to be underestimated in low point games. Its quick, versatile, and can shoot holes in most things. In lower point games there are less enemy units to shoot at you, and you can generally keep them hidden until they unload on something

2x War Walker- 2 shuri cannons

War Walkers are always a solid addition to a low point army. They are cheap- these are 40 a pop. And give a lot of heavy weapons fire. They'll knock down rhinos, and force D/Ps to make armor saves like nobodies business.

A list like that would give you a similar theme to the one you posted while ramping up the amount of fire power on the table.

His list doesn't seem particularly hard, with only a single rhino, likely filled with Zerks, and no obliterators, you should be able to beat him with any all comers list. Remember as long as you aren't shooting at plague marines, you'll do some real damage to MEQ with doom + 4 tl shuri catapults, 2 shuri cannons, and 2 destructors. Don't underestimate what GJB can do when they combine their fire on a unit.

Intresting options. I'm sick of throwing dice at the 3+ so this time I decided to just ignore it. I think your right about the Prism so I will take 2 and cheese it up. Also I have come to learn that you better bring A LOT of fire to combat BS3 =/ I will try the 3 bike lock combo in the future. As a matter of fact maybe this weekend if our Nids player wants to try. The Excutioner I gave up for the triskele for 3 more no Marine armour save shots. 2+ str is really needed tho so I might change that up. I just wanted to take the MC's for payback since his Dprince has eaten so many of my Seers, Avengers and Guardians.


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Ok new list.

Doomseer
3 Guardian bikes plain
3 Guardian bikes plain
10 Banshees Exarch Excutioner
Wave Serpent EML and underslung cannon
Fire Prism plain
Fire Prism plain

749 no spear 752 with, will depend on his choices.

New tactic is catch me if you can, kite all over the table and pick off the CC squads one by one if I can.

Edit: Now looking at this makes me want to squeeze the Seer onto a bike......

Runes of Ward is a must if you know you will be facing CSM

If you end up doing annihiation your jetbikes will honestly just be a libility without an enchance Jetlock, but trying to cram a full unit of banshees w/ doomseer plus 2 prisms doesn't leve you a lot of options.

You have nothing that will reliably be ble to take down his DP, but I don't think that will e a big issue since 3/4th of your army will make marines evaporate. Just want out for the lure and be sure not to get your banshees shot up because once they are gone you are goign to have a bit of a rough time... unless your oponent really has almost no way to death with AV12 like you report of his list says.