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I have only played BA in a JP capacity, so I am looking to try something a bit different (albeit the norm).

1,000 Pts. Ba Mech:
-Libby
-Sang Priest.
-2x ASM w/ Melta, Razorback (Las/Plas)
-ASM w/ Flamer, Razorback (Las/Plas)
-2x Libby Dreads

The Dreads will probably have Shield/Wings. The Libby will have Shield & BL/UR, depending.

Thoughts?

Libby dreads are an awful return on investment from my experience. For 35 points you can get it a drop pod which will put it in the enemies front line, rather than the 50 points to let it be able to jump. also a dread coming out of a drop pod can be placed strategically to get a cover save for its disembarking turn, or if you dont feel youll lose out by not shooting, you can just pop smoke.

Slick wrote:Libby dreads are an awful return on investment from my experience. For 35 points you can get it a drop pod which will put it in the enemies front line, rather than the 50 points to let it be able to jump. also a dread coming out of a drop pod can be placed strategically to get a cover save for its disembarking turn, or if you dont feel youll lose out by not shooting, you can just pop smoke.

Libby Dread is there to provide another Shield aura though. I am inclined to drop the one Dread down to a regular Furioso, but then I lose the Wings ability.

i would give it blood lance instead of wings, it may help, but wings you wont want to use since you want to use shield and stay around your other models.

So much fail advice. BA librarians can wings during their turn and shield during opponents shooting phase. I have a list that is for 2k:

Librarian- shield/fear
2 Librarian Dreads shield/wings
1 techmarine (had 50 points at the end and he does more for mech then a priest)

4x5man assault squads with melta and assault cannon razorbacks

3x Baal predators with bolters/assault cannon

3x Predators with lascannon/autocannon

8 av 13 vehicles, 7 twin linked assault cannons, 6 lascannons, 3 autocannons, 6 heavy bolters, 4 melta guns, 3 shields. Dreads are escorts for razorbacks and baal and the predators can sit back and demech. Everything is fast.

At 1k I would just do half of what I have now, probably no dreads.

Librarian
3x5man assault squads with melta and assault cannon razorbacks
3x Predators with lascannon/autocannon
1000 points

If you want a dread at 1k drop 1 assault squad and one predator to a dakkapred.

Tyrius wrote:So much fail advice. BA librarians can wings during their turn and shield during opponents shooting phase. I have a list that is for 2k:

Librarian- shield/fear
2 Librarian Dreads shield/wings
1 techmarine (had 50 points at the end and he does more for mech then a priest)

4x5man assault squads with melta and assault cannon razorbacks

3x Baal predators with bolters/assault cannon

3x Predators with lascannon/autocannon

8 av 13 vehicles, 7 twin linked assault cannons, 6 lascannons, 3 autocannons, 6 heavy bolters, 4 melta guns, 3 shields. Dreads are escorts for razorbacks and baal and the predators can sit back and demech. Everything is fast.

At 1k I would just do half of what I have now, probably no dreads.

Librarian
3x5man assault squads with melta and assault cannon razorbacks
3x Predators with lascannon/autocannon
1000 points

If you want a dread at 1k drop 1 assault squad and one predator to a dakkapred.

How have you found the success of your 1k list? Also is shield enough to cover your Razorbacks?


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Sageheart wrote:i would give it blood lance instead of wings, it may help, but wings you wont want to use since you want to use shield and stay around your other models.

No, I want to give it shield to protect my troops, and wings so it CAN stay around my other models....

Using smoke launchers and vehicle positioning can normally get you 4+ saves on the majority of your vehicles. Ask any guardsman how long they survive relying on a 5+ as their means of protection

Slick wrote:Using smoke launchers and vehicle positioning can normally get you 4+ saves on the majority of your vehicles. Ask any guardsman how long they survive relying on a 5+ as their means of protection

Smoke Launchers will help for one turn. Vehicle positioning is situational. Having a guaranteed 5+ save is a great thing, especially when the model giving off the aura is a Str.10 beast.

It's all in how linear you want to think of it- a single vehicle can get a cover save for itself once, but the smoked vehicle can provide 4+ cover saves to the vehicles behind it-(so you essentially will give yourself 4 turns worth of cover with 4 vehicles) and you can position fairly easy based on the threat radius potentials of the enemy units you are fearing shooting your tanks. It's not saying right or wrong either way, just giving out other options.

I havent played it at 1k just showing what I would take my 2k list down to for 1k. I have been really successful at 2k with it.


Shield+whatever other ability is the only way to go with a librarian in a mech list. Its the only way to utilize 2 powers given each is done during each player turn.