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Let's say I want to bubble wrap a battlewagon with a boyz mob, to protect it from assaults. Like this:

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b W b
bbbbb

b for boy, w for wagon. Am I allowed to fully enclose a unit within a unit?

Yes, there are no rules preventing you from doing so, and the general movement rules allow you to do so.

Sentinel wrote:Let's say I want to bubble wrap a battlewagon with a boyz mob, to protect it from assaults. Like this:

bbbbb
b W b
bbbbb

b for boy, w for wagon. Am I allowed to fully enclose a unit within a unit?

Yes. Good luck moving them.

Yep. Just remember that you move one and then the other - you can't move them forward together so the formation would break down the first time you move.

(so, if you really want to do that, use one big mob of boyz (for the front and sides) and a small mob (for the back) - move the big mob, then the wagon, then the small mob)

Ah, thanks guys, I'm not sure that would ever do this anyway, but it had been plaguing my mind on whether it was legal or not.

Scott-S6 wrote:Yep. Just remember that you move one and then the other - you can't move them forward together so the formation would break down the first time you move.

(so, if you really want to do that, use one big mob of boyz (for the front and sides) and a small mob (for the back) - move the big mob, then the wagon, then the small mob)

This works, or you can do it with a single squad.

1) Move the mob forward, leaving a gap large enough for the battlewagon.

2) Move the battlewagon through the gap into the center of the mob.

3) Run the mob and use the movement to close the gap.

4) Repeat steps next turn.

It means the mob will never be able to shoot, but there are times this is an acceptable sacrifice in order to fully surround a model and protect it on all sides.

you missed a step:

3b) curse the dice rolling to low to allow the Back end of the unit to get far enough to fully enclose the battle-wagon again

Remember also that you need to make sure any gaps between the encircling models' bases are too small for an assaulter to fit between. If you fail to do this, you may wind up eating an assault or multi-assault anyway.

Ok, if the assaulters got close enough to my BW for a multi-assault, then do they get to choose where their attacks go (i.e. on the boyz or on the BW)? How would that work, because wound allocation means you are allocating 'wounds', and vehicles can't take wounds.

Sentinel wrote:Ok, if the assaulters got close enough to my BW for a multi-assault, then do they get to choose where their attacks go (i.e. on the boyz or on the BW)? How would that work, because wound allocation means you are allocating 'wounds', and vehicles can't take wounds.

The attacker directs the attacks subject to the limits spelled out on pages 35 and 41 of the main rulebook.

The attacks directed at the vehicle roll for penetration and are resolved against the vehicle.
The attacks directed at the non-vehicle unit roll to wound and are resolved against the non-vehicle unit.

Multiple combats is on page 41 of the Rule book.

The models in base-to-hull with the battlewagon, can only attack the Battlewagon.

The Models in Base to base with your unit, can only attack your unit.

Models in Base-to-base with your unit, and Base-to-hull with the battle wagon can freely attack either or both.

Models within 2" of a model in base-to-base, or base-to-hull; can attack what those that are in base can attack.

Wound allocation has nothing to do with Multiple Combats; attack allocation does. You cannot allocate wounds to be saved to a different unit from the one attacked in multiple combats(or anywhere else really, without a special rule).

Gotcha. Thanks for clearing it up.