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The Healing Potion says that the "imbiber" recovers d6 wounds.

Can the model equipped with the potion distribute it to his mount? (Say, a Goblin Great Shaman with an Arachnarok)?

I didn't see anything in the FAQ about this, and I didn't see anything in YMDC either. Must the imbiber be the model equipped with the potion?

Conservatively, I'm assuming that you cannot feed this to a mount, but on the other hand, if the model is a character mounted so as to be Monstrous Cavalry (rather than a ridden monster), it's entirely possible that you are already using the mount's Wound Characteristic (and so are recovering more wounds than the character himself actually has). On the other hand, it would be really useful to be able to heal your enormous spider, so....

This would also apply to the other potions, which all benefit the "imbiber" as well, rather than saying the character equipped with the potion.

Da Butcha wrote:Can the model equipped with the potion distribute it to his mount? (Say, a Goblin Great Shaman with an Arachnarok)?

Holy crap, that's awesome!

Not sure about the answer to the question though, since I don't have my rulebook atm.

from the wording it doesn't say it has to be the model carrying it.


I would only allow it for character mounts. no giving it to other characters.

I think you'd have to invent rules to make that work. Is there a place anywhere in the book that says a mount can use a magical item from the character riding it? I don't think there is...

In the wood elf book, there's an item that specifically gives a ward save to the bearer and their mount. Meaning all the other ward saves do not apply to the mount.

The healing potion can only be used by the character that has that magic item. It would have to have specific wording allowing it to be fed to someone/something else in order for this to be allowable.

This is vaguely similar to the debate we had about bound items- whether the item or the model carrying it casts the spell, based on the wording. But there is no wording here that will allow the character to feed his potion to another model/mount other than himself.

I though there was a line in 8th which states thaty only the bearer of a magic item gets the benefit, unless it states otherwise...

The potion says the bearer can use it, as soon as you can prove to me that the spider is bearing the potion i'll let ya do it

No, the potion says the "Imbiber" gains D6 wounds back.


Imbiber simply means the one who drinks the potion.


the question is, Who can be the Imbiber?




just chalk it up to GW spending too much money on Lawyers and not enough on Editors

there is no rule set forth that will let you transfer any item from one person to another. The fact that GW decided to try and get fancy with their wording is not an excuse to use a magic item in any way than it is intended. If "the imbiber" could be a mount, why couldn't it be another character in b2b contact with the bearer of the potion? I personally think Teclis should be able to hand his sword over to someone who could actually do something with it, but if wishes were fishes....

Arion- I'm thinking Teclis doesn't need any help although I completely agree with your point about this rule.

I'm pretty sure there's something about the wielder/owner/bearer also being the "imbiber", but I think the OP has a point to ask the question, at least.

Some items are given to other things in a unit, like Skavenbrew or the old goblin's Madcap Mushrooms.

The word "imbiber" may seem to be flexible, but it's probably as flexible as "wielder"; the guy who bears an item is not necessarily the guy who chooses to wield it. Except, in Warhammer, that's not a flexible term at all.

Personal and house rules aside, I don't think this sentence offers enough to allow anyone but the character who bought the item to use it.

For those of you who feel that the "imbiber" must be the bearer, and that the bearer is the character, a thought experiment.

A Goblin Hero has two wounds. In the new O&G book, he can ride upon a Gigantic Spider. If he does so, it the model is treated as Monstrous Cavalry. This means that the Hero is treated as having the wounds of the mount (so 3 wounds). If the Hero on Gigantic Spider loses two wounds, then drinks the potion, how many wounds does he recover?

He (the Character) only has two wounds. He can't recover to three, because the character doesn't have three, only the character and monster mount combination has three wounds. If the Potion can heal two wounds, then it is recovering one wound for the Hero's independent stat line, and one wound from his mount (so he's not only letting the mount have some, he's sharing it! Yuck! )

Of course, this is an abstraction. Ridden Monsters, unlike Monstrous Cavalry, can be killed separately from their Hero. However, it does illustrate that the potion doesn't necessarily obviously just restore the hero's wounds to their original number (assuming a sufficient roll).

I agree that it seems dubious to use the Healing Potion to heal a mount or an adjacent character. It also seems dubious to feed a Potion of Strength to your Arachnarok before entering combat with 8 STR 8 attacks. However, is it clearly prohibited or allowed in the rules? Even if I don't do it (and I won't unless it is clearly legal), what do I say when the Dragon Mage does it to his Sun Dragon?

I'm not asking to get a huge rules benefit (as I won't even consider doing it unless there is a clear allowance in the rules or the FAQ). I'm asking because GW sometimes buries rules in a section other than where you might expect, or in a sidebar you hadn't looked at.

I'd fall back on the BRB section that says the character bearing a magic item gets the benefit, but any mount does not.

With regard to your monstrous cav example, IIRC the BRB actually says the character and mount use whichever wound total is greatest. That means for purposes of your potion, the goblin is using the higher wound total. It's HIS as long as he keeps using it and he can drink his potion to get his wounds back.

In the case of a model with different wound profiles, you can only be healed where it clearly specifies "model," as in "healing hand" from a warrior priest, or when (as in the lifebloom effect) it allows you to target more or less anything you want.