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I'd Thought I'd Start Collecting Daemons As Yet Another 40k Army And Made This List, I wanted to focus my army mainly on Khorne but found myself including several units of the other Gods but Khorne is still majority. What Do You Think?

HQ:

Skulltaker 140

Herald Of Khorne 105
Juggernaught

Troops:

10 Bloodletters (With Skulltaker) 160

10 Bloodletters 165
Instrument

10 Horrors 200
Changeling, Icon

10 Plaguebearers 175
Icon

Elites:

2 Bloodcrushers 85
Instrument

Fast Attack:

6 Screamers 96

Heavy Support:

Soulgrinder 190
Tounge, Phlegm

Soulgrinder 190
Tounge, Phlegm




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Is 2 Soulgrinders enough as people say 1 is rubbish due to "Anti Tank" Enemy Weaponry

Well don't like taking two grinders just because one will die, it just seems pointless in wasting so many points soming because it will die. If the grinders both have tounge (drop the phlegm) they could come in first turn and deal with any tanks which will kill your bloodletters and then you could swap the screamers for more blood crushers or a DP with Mark of khorne and maybe wings with the points from the grinder upgrades dropped to deal with infantry. If you want to keep your screamers then I would give give one of the grinders tounge and the other phlegm and use the 50 points for some more plague bearers (you could split up in to two units if you wanted although you have got 4 troop so you won't need much more).

cheapbuster wrote:Well don't like taking two grinders just because one will die, it just seems pointless in wasting so many points soming because it will die.

Well isn't that a risk you have to take in 40k regardless of what your fielding?


Your army looks pretty legit, Skulltaker is a great herald for fighting Space Marines and multi-wound units. I would suggest adding a Bloodthirster or Daemon Prince to fill in gaps that your army has problems with.

Murray145 wrote:

cheapbuster wrote:Well don't like taking two grinders just because one will die, it just seems pointless in wasting so many points soming because it will die.

Well isn't that a risk you have to take in 40k regardless of what your fielding?


Your army looks pretty legit, Skulltaker is a great herald for fighting Space Marines and multi-wound units. I would suggest adding a Bloodthirster or Daemon Prince to fill in gaps that your army has problems with.

What Would You Suggest removing to free points for a Daemon Prince Or A Bloodthirster?

Skulltaker 140

Herald Of Khorne 105
Juggernaught

Troops:

10 Bloodletters (With Skulltaker) 160

10 Bloodletters 165
Instrument

10 Horrors 200
Changeling, Icon

10 Plaguebearers 175
Icon

Elites:

2 Bloodcrushers 85
Instrument

Fast Attack:

6 Screamers 96

Heavy Support:

Soulgrinder 190
Tounge, Phlegm

Soulgrinder 190
Tounge, Phlegm

Your list definately does not fall under the category of typical. If you want to build a tournament level army there are many changes that need to be made. If you are looking for fun/fluffy playin beer and pretzels list then I have a couple of suggestions.
- 10 PBs is way too many in one troop choice. PBs are good (very good) at one thing and that is not dying. PBs are amoung the gold standard of objective campers. That being said they dont much else as they are pretty meh at c/c. The norm for PBs is 5 or 7 for objective camping. The choice between 5 or 7 is honestly up to taste but those are the norm.
- As for the screamers seeig as the one target they will have is going to be vehicles. This means your going to normally need 4 or 6s to hit. You did bring a good number of them so you might be alright. Just be forwarned some people have much success with them while others find them terribad. As your only current AT are your grinders you should keep them in, list as written.
-Dropping the points on your PBs should free up enough points for a jug for ST. Your crushers are wowfully undermanned. As crushers move as infantry and any general knows they eat just about anything they touch they will be a high pri target. That being said if you join your HOK and ST on a jug they might live longer. Just beware of walkers as they will make your crusher squad cry.
- I think you might also be happier if you lowered the numbers of your 'letters to find the points for a bolt on your horror squad. Normally a bolt in a 10 man horror unit is frowned on as if its a 10 man unit thats 9 people whose shoots will be ineffective. That being said you only have 2 ranged options for transport poping and they are both hi pri targets and susceptible to AT shooting themselves.
- As for the grinders I think try them with both upgrades you might like them that way but its alot points on a single platform that essentially has one wound.

If the soul grinders are for AT then maybe the 50 points for phlegm could be used else where, maybe ST's jug like scotch said? For the PB you could get rid of half of them and take a HoT with legion and bolt (although im not sure of the points or if he can even take legion , im prety sure he can) to go with the horrors so you've got another anti tank weapon which doesn't waste the rest of the horrors fireing.

I'd Like To Add A Thirster but dont know where to make up the points.

Hey GoDz BuZzSaW,

Nice that you're looking at Daemons for your next army. Your list looks like a start. At 1500 points Soulgrinders can be very powerfull (IMO they get weaker with higher point lists). You ask if two are sufficient? Well they are good, but three would be better of course. You have the points to buy a third. I'd make a few changes to your list. Especially the Khornate Heralds are sub par choices considering the rest of your list IMO. You say you'd like a Bloodthirster? I think it would be a very good addition to the list. All in all I'd choose a list like this based on the unit choices you've made:

255 Bloodthirster, Blessing
200 4 Bloodcrushers, Instrument, Fury, Icon
128 8 Bloodletters
128 8 Bloodletters
100 5 Horrors, Changeling, Bolt
110 7 Plaguebearers, Instrument
96 6 Screamers
160 Soulgrinder, Phlegm
160 Soulgrinder, Phlegm
160 Soulgrinder, Tounge

1497 points

Good luck with the list, let us know how you're doing with it.

Cilithan