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I have a tournament saturday and I want to use my thousand sons theme list.
Thousand sons 1849pts

Daemon Prince Mark of Tzeentch warptime Bolt of change wings 200pts

Daemon Prince Mark of Tzeentch warptime breath of chaos wings 200pts

Dreadnought pts Plasma Cannon pts 105pts


10x Thousands sons blot rhino dozer blades 332pts

10x Thousands sons blot rhino dozer blades 332pts

obliterators 225

obliterators 225

obliterators 225

The only problem with this list is that you have only two scoring units. You also don't have Aspiring Sorcerers or Sorcerers in your Thousand Sons to lead them so they wont be able to operate as smoothly.

I would get rid of the Dreadnought and the Dozer Blades on your Rhinos and cut down the amount of Oblterators you have in your army and add more Rubic Marines and put Sorcerers in them!

I don't play chaos, but I would have to agree, more scoring units are a must. In an 1850pt game, I usually run 5 with the guard, but with marines, probably a minimum of 3. If you want to keep the amount of obliderators consider reducing the size of the marine squads to allow for aspiring champions and another squad

Don't they come with a Sorcerer automagically?
Though agreed. Are you using Dozer Blades because you modeled your Rhinos with them and feel compelled to be true to the model, or are you afraid of terrain?
Fewer Obliterators, and would probably lose the Dread for a Defiler. Since they look damn cool.
More Sons, definitely. I'd say pop it up to four squads. Or cabals, or covens, or whatever eldritch marines organize as. Gaggles. Something.

Not to be mean but this amry will get smashed in the face by anything. my problem is that you need to get rid of the obliterators. the cost way to much and the get instant killed really easily. take more thousand sons, they are great at tank hunting with doom bolt. with my experience with obliterators is that they often die in the first turn. they dont really get up to much tank hunting as they get tied up fighting infantry. take havocs if you really want fire power or even chosen. but apart from that i really like the the deamon prince idea. allthough i am a fan of lash of submission. but you only want thousand sons dont you. any thankyou for listening just a tip.

Bolt is kinda meh for tank hunting; it forces you to give up your Thousand Sons greatest asset (AP3) for a single S8 shot. I'd drop all the Bolts (exchange for Doombolt on the TS's). I'd drop the WoC on the DP for points and reduction of overkill (WoC with a reroll is just nasty and leaves a good chance of your DP being left to dry outside CC).

Drop the Dozer Blades and a TS from each squad. Might as well stick with the sacred number. They already have Sorcerers (they come with them), so ignore everyone who told you to add them.

I'd drop the dread for points and adding more troops. I'd also drop a pair of Oblits for points. Then I'd add another squad of TS.

HQ- DP- MoT, Wings, Warptime- 175
HQ- DP- MoT, Wings, Warptime- 175
TR-Thousand SOns (9)- Rhino, Doombolt- 289
TR-Thousand SOns (9)- Rhino, Doombolt- 289
TR-Thousand SOns (9)- Rhino, Doombolt- 289
HS- Oblits (2)- 150
HS- Oblits (2)- 150
HS- Oblits (3)- 225

Thanks for the advice I mite try it out i only have 2 thousands sons squads right now. If this list does good at the tournament than ill get more thousand sons and take most of your advice. One last thing I do have aspring socercers in my list i just for got to post them.

I'm pretty sure you have to purchess an aspirering sorcerer for 60pts. like all chaos squads you all was have to buy a leader for the squad.

Tech Guard wrote:I'm pretty sure you have to purchess an aspirering sorcerer for 60pts. like all chaos squads you all was have to buy a leader for the squad.

Is this even in English?

His cost totals include the mandatory Aspiring Sorcerer.
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Shadey, do you have any other troop units? Even some Personal Icons and Lesser Daemons could be useful. At the very least, I would swap the Dozer Blades for Icons, so that you can deepstrike the Oblits safely if need be.

I would try to find the points to fit combi flamers on the rhinos. Hordes seem like they are going to give you no end of problems considering the cost of Thousand Sons and the fact that against orks they just have normal bolters!

Finding a balance between anti tank and anti horde is tough in a TS list- mainly due to the cost of the troops. having some flamers mounted on the hulls of your Rhinos- if only for one shot a piece, can at least dent those hordes.

I'm not sure about the cost of Greater Demons but they're awesome for their point value. I think they're a little over 100 points? I'd drop some obliterators and the dread for a Greater Demon and more troops.