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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/02 21:11:42
Subject: Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Battlefield Professional
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Hey everyone,
We will be hosting our 'Second Saturday' GW tournament in two weeks on Saturday, March 12. We had a good turnout last month and it was a very busy event! I'd like to thank everyone that came out and participated. I put a spot on the score sheet for each round for players to note how many turns their game went and was able to get a good idea about where things were lagging. Overall the games went to at least five turns with a few over the course of the day that went a few extra rounds thanks to random game length and a couple that went a little short; nevertheless it was nice to be able to see that data instead of having to guess. I think the super mega bonus door-prizes went over well, too!
There has been some confusion about the 40k event; suffice it to say that there was some adverse reaction to the idea of a 3k tournament and we have decided to reschedule that event so that it doesn't interfere with the regular monthly tournament. Stay tuned for more info on the 3k event as it develops however, since we still plan on hosting it at some point soon.
The March Second Saturday 40k Tournament, however, is not a 3k Tournament.
So there.
For the 40k event we will be mixing things up, however. I spoke to a number of players during the last event and over the course of the last month and we are finally going to try out a 1500 point tournament
*pause for inevitable running around, shrieking, arm waving, and dirt in hair getting
We will be running a swiss-style tournament with four rounds at 1500 points. Soft scores will still factor and contribute to a player's overall score. I am debating standardizing the games at six turns for consistency and to remove the randomness of random game length from the tournament games. If you have strong feelings about this in either direction, let me know so I can take them into consideration.
The Sportsmanship score is 0-2-4-6. Generally, everyone gives out 6s across the board, which isn't necessarily how it's supposed to work, but I am merely a humble TO, with only a limited ability to influence the masses. The Composition score is a simple Thumbs Up / Thumbs Down notation. I weighted the Comp score a bit more heavily this time around based on some conversations I had with players after the event. There will be three bonus points available to players this time around:
+1 tournament point for having a legible copy of your army list for me to keep (thanks to KC for that one!)
+1 tournament point for being at the store and ready to play by 10:00am
+1 tournament point for being back on time from lunch
For Fantasy Battle, the points have gone up to 2500, we will be running a standard three-round rogue trader style event for WHFB.
For both events there is a $10 entry (or $20 purchase) to play, and the doors will be open as of 9:00am for players to come in and get set up. I want to kick this one off as close to 10:00am as possible so we don't go too long. There will be prizes for Best Overall, Best General, Best Sportsman, and Best Army. Prizes are awarded in GW product of the winner's choice.
The prize split has been slightly amended to 70-30-25-25 for Overall, General, Army, and Sportsman respectively.
For 40k, the schedule will stick as closely as possible to the following:
9:00am - 10:00 - check-in, sign-up, event preamble, pairings
10:00am - 12:00pm - Round 1
12:00 - 12:30 - Lunch
12:30 - 2:30 - Round 2
2:30 - 4:30 - Round 3
4:30 - 6:30 - Round 4
6:45 - Winners announced
For Fantasy Battle, the schedule will look more like this:
9:00 - 10:00 - check-in, sign-up, event preamble, pairings
10:00 - 12:30 - Round 1
12:30 - 1:00 - Lunch
1:00 - 3:30 - Round 2
3:30 - 6:00 - Round 3
6:45 - Winners announced
It all goes down at Game Empire Pasadena
2302 E. Colorado Blvd.
Pasadena, CA. 91107
626-304-9333
www.gameempirepasadena.com
Please let me know here or on the tournament thread on the Game Empire forums if you're planning on attending so I can get a rough idea what to expect and not have to run around turning tables from 40k to WHFB or vice versa on the morning of the event!
Finally, if anyone out there is interested in being available as a 'ringer' for the at least the first round or two, I would be very appreciative and spiff you accordingly. Basically, you'd pay no entry fee, only have to play for the first round or two as your schedule permits, and get some swag in exchange for making sure the odd man has an actual game, instead of just free points. And if we get a even number of players, you'd be free to hang or bail as you see fit.
If you have any comments or questions, let me know here or give a call to the store, and hopefully I'll see you there!
-Dis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/03 01:26:18
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
Los Angeles
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Good times! I love the Game Empire store, and am a fairly new player. Even so, I wish to get my feet wet in the competitive waters and attend the tournament, so I will more than likely be there!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/03 02:28:22
Subject: Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Probably bringing goblins this time!
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Team USA ETC Dark Elves 2010, 2011
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/03 05:28:53
Subject: Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I will be there on the 40k side. Still on the fence as to what army I am going to play though  or  ? I threw my 2 cents in on the GE boards but thought I would add it here too. I think random game length is a defining part of 5th ed missions and wouldn't like to see it disappear completely. I think having it on anything less than 50% of the games would be a bad idea.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/03/03 05:29:28
Las Vegas Open Head Judge
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings or pride, but your credentials matter. Even on the internet.
"If you do not have the knowledge, you do not have the right to the opinion." -Plato
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/03 20:27:53
Subject: Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Lurking Gaunt
Phoenix
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Looks great! I like the idea of a 1500 point Swiss event. Thanks for the advanced notice on this one I might try to finagle a way out there but don't save a spot or anything. I think you would do a major dis-service to 5th ed if you took random game length out of any mission based off book missions.
OW I am going to have my FLGS guy contact you about getting our results in for hte Warmaster Cup! Expect an e-mail this week sometime.
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3k Daemons
2k IG (not Leaf Blower)
4k Vanilla Marines
1k of a budding Tyranid brood any suggestions on what to do with Tyranids? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/03 21:33:16
Subject: Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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I can't make it (moved to Minnesota) but I'd heartily suggest not removing random game length.
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Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)
They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 1970/09/09 00:03:01
Subject: Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Fixture of Dakka
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I'll be there.
@1500 I may bring my Dark Eldar (heavily proxied) instead of Dual  Lash CSM.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/03/04 02:54:09
"You can bring any cheesy unit you want. If you lose. Casey taught me that." -Tim S.
"I'm gonna follow Casey; he knows where the beer's at!" -Blackmoor, BAO 2013
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/04 03:28:26
Subject: Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I will be there if time allows it, I'll also try and get more people to go.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/04 21:36:26
Subject: Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Battlefield Professional
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Hulksmash wrote:I can't make it (moved to Minnesota) but I'd heartily suggest not removing random game length.
Minnesota!!!??  Jeebus. I heard you were thinking about a move, I didn't know it was quite so imminent! Come by next time you circulate back to the world out here, even if only to warm your frozen feets!
I've gotten a lot of feedback from everyone about the random game length and it has been almost universally in favor of, so it looks like I will not be removing it. 1 or 2 on turn five, here we come!
-Dis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/07 21:09:16
Subject: Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Dis and I played a 1500 point practice game on Saturday to test lists, how long 1500 point games last, and a couple other things. There should be a bat rep for it up this week on Capture and Control.
I bring it up for the random game length discussion. Often times people get annoyed because it causes the game to end early, ours went to turn 7. That may be the 6th game of 5th ed I have played that went to turn 7 and had it down to the wire the entire time. It just affirmed my belief that random game length, while annoying at times, is a good game mechanic. Hope to see you all there on Saturday!
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Las Vegas Open Head Judge
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings or pride, but your credentials matter. Even on the internet.
"If you do not have the knowledge, you do not have the right to the opinion." -Plato
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/07 21:37:28
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Getting my broom incase there is shenanigans.
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Is there a painting requirement?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 07:16:30
Subject: Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
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You just need to move here Blackmoor, at current prices you'd save a crap load on gas
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 18:14:39
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Battlefield Professional
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Blackmoor left of his own accord, greener pastures and all that. Though I recall something about maybe coming back when the work is done, so there's always hope that the anti-shenanigans broom may return to sunny southern California.
There's not a painting requirement, though if you aren't fully painted (within reason, a model or two that aren't quite finished to the army standard won't count against you), you'll lose a painting point.
This is shaping up to be an old-times tournament. Others from beyond the pale have mentioned the distinct possibility of maybe thinking about trying to come out. I feel like Theoden at the muster of the Rohirrim. "More will come. We ride at first light."
-Dis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 22:00:37
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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disdainful wrote:
This is shaping up to be an old-times tournament. Others from beyond the pale have mentioned the distinct possibility of maybe thinking about trying to come out. I feel like Theoden at the muster of the Rohirrim. "More will come. We ride at first light."
-Dis.
One could only hope. Now if only we could get Darrian to come too...
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Las Vegas Open Head Judge
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings or pride, but your credentials matter. Even on the internet.
"If you do not have the knowledge, you do not have the right to the opinion." -Plato
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 22:17:03
Subject: Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Lurking Gaunt
Phoenix
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Hey, does Yakface really play a Kan Wall? OW talked about it in his latest post on CnC and I was just wondering since I have never met the guy.
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3k Daemons
2k IG (not Leaf Blower)
4k Vanilla Marines
1k of a budding Tyranid brood any suggestions on what to do with Tyranids? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 22:46:02
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Battlefield Professional
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Yak's Kanwall is true, and impressive. I've only ever seen it struggle against a very beyond-the-pale Daemon army with lots of non-standard stuff. And even then I think he did ok.
Since Allan was asking about it (kinda), and the timing is somewhat serendipitous, for anyone who's interested, I just put up a rundown of the paint judging criteria I use, with a discussion of each.
You can find it on Capture and Control, here: http://captureandcontrol.blogspot.com/
Hope that helps!
-Dis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/08 23:36:21
Subject: Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Awesome Autarch
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Please be sure to send me the results for this so I can register them for the Southwest Master's Cup! Thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/09 02:16:16
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Getting my broom incase there is shenanigans.
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I do not think I will make it.
I need the practice for Adepticon, but 3 trips to LA in 3 weeks might kill me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/09 18:15:26
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Battlefield Professional
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Reece - No prob. I got your note about the last one, sorry to lag getting back to you; it has been a hectic life this last month.  I will batch-send you the results for the first three events next week.
Allan - Awww.... C'mon! I'll buy you lunch...
Also, *edit* for credit where it's due on the original post.
-Dis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 15:39:05
Subject: Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/03/12 15:40:02
Las Vegas Open Head Judge
I'm sorry if it hurts your feelings or pride, but your credentials matter. Even on the internet.
"If you do not have the knowledge, you do not have the right to the opinion." -Plato
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/12 20:59:05
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Battlefield Professional
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No love for WHFB this morning; we are however in the midst of a solid 40k smash-em-up. Pretty good split of armies:
1 Chaos Daemons
2 Guard (one Mech, one footsloggers)
3 Orks (all Kanwall!  )
3 Space Marines (one Drop Pod Imperial Fist, one mixed Crimson Fists, 1 custom Blood Ravens)
1 Chaos Marines (lash princes, Plaguers, Oblits)
1 Tyranids
2 Blood Angels (both mech, one LRs, one Rhino chassis)
1 Black Templars ( LR terminator rush)
2 Space Wolves (one RB spam, one TWC/ LF)
1 Witch Hunters (mech)
1 Eldar (mechdar/Warwalker spam)
I'll post a wrap-up once the dust has settled both here and on http://captureandcontrol.blogspot.com/
-Dis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/13 06:04:57
Subject: Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Space Marine Scout with Sniper Rifle
Burbank
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was a good time a lot of great armies! next time i'll do better when both my raiders don't immoblise themselves at the same time lol! next month DA
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2500 pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/14 17:42:52
Subject: Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Lurking Gaunt
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/03/14 17:43:06
3k Daemons
2k IG (not Leaf Blower)
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1k of a budding Tyranid brood any suggestions on what to do with Tyranids? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/14 19:57:30
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Battlefield Professional
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Oh it happened all right. My general lack of health yesterday and today is a testament to that.
It is the internets though... rest assured I got some great pictures and will have them up on CnC this evening, provided one of my many current maladies doesn't kill me first!
-Dis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/14 20:10:12
Subject: Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Awesome Autarch
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Sounds good, I will keep my eyes open for the results! I am glad yo guys had a fun tournament.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/16 20:54:24
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Battlefield Professional
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The wrap-up for this one is now on Capture and Control, with breakdowns of the armies and missions, and a player-by-player synopsis of the rounds.
Check it out here: http://captureandcontrol.blogspot.com/
Thanks again to everyone who made it out, and stay tuned for the next one in April (which may be an 1850-point event, thanks in part to a certain benevolent overlord on this little ol' wargaming site  ).
-Dis.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/16 22:54:15
Subject: Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Dakka Veteran
Culver City, CA
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Poor Meph. The only bright side was that he pulled those blood letters off the objective.
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"There is no such thing as a cheesy space marine army, but any army that can beat space marines is cheesy. " -- Blackmoor
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/16 23:39:49
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Battlefield Professional
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Hey, at least he didn't spend two turns biffing the psychic test for Sanguine Sword and then die to Perils... That was his fate in a game I played about two weeks ago.
I can't use my lol emoticon too heavily though... you know I'm planning a(nother) BA army of my own!
-Dis
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/19 17:50:23
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k and Fantasy Battle Tournaments on 3/12 at Game Empire in Pasadena!
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Battlefield Professional
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Ok, last little bit for this one. If anyone is interested in checking out some of the other armies, I put up a sampling of the lists that took the field last weekend.
http://captureandcontrol.blogspot.com/
And I'm done. Stay tuned to this space for the announcement and details of our April event, and thanks again to everyone who came out!
-Dis.
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