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hi im new to the hobby and unsure about resin models, i have a nurgle termi conversion kit and a sorcerer. i have red about cleaning and washing them but i have red that gw black undercoat doesnt stick after its washed. has anyone used gws spray on resin models and could give me some pointers . i would be very greatful. thanks

jay

As long as they're washed then it'll stick perfectly well.

Oh, and because someone is going to say it quite soon, this is the showcase forum, this should belong in Modelling.

Moving...

There sometimes might be a release agent still on the resin, which is why you should wash thembefore priming. Personally, I don't bother as GW primer sticks right on all the FW stuff i've bought before.

Still it's a good precaution to take, rather than being a lazy bum like me.

Snarky wrote:There sometimes might be a release agent still on the resin, which is why you should wash them before priming. Personally, I don't bother as GW primer sticks right on all the FW stuff i've bought before.

Still it's a good precaution to take, rather than being a lazy bum like me.

Yeah, see the reason why you clean resin isn't because "there might be a release agent still on the resin". It's because there will be release agent still on the resin, and it inevitably will cause your gorgeous paintjob to simply rub off while you handle the model.

You should always scrub FW resin before painting.

Other makers are not so craptacular at QC and have already done most of the prep-work first (removal of crud, flash and other stuff, and sanding level.).

EVEN FW recommend a different spray primer than GWs one.
I'd take THEIR suggestion anyday - they have to paint it and they want their paint to stick.

Go for an autoprimer. It will actually act as one. Chaos black spray isn't one. Formulation is all wrong for the task.

A primer etches into the surface to give the actual paint better tooth with the model (it makes the paint 'grab' the surface harder).

Don't overprime, either. It isn't necessary, useful, and will cake up fast leading to obscured details.

chromedog wrote:You should always scrub FW resin before painting.

Other makers are not so craptacular at QC and have already done most of the prep-work first (removal of crud, flash and other stuff, and sanding level.).

I don't know what the hell resin models you're buying, but pretty much every kit I get from AFV Club has the same issues. It's to be expected with model kits.

EVEN FW recommend a different spray primer than GWs one.
I'd take THEIR suggestion anyday - they have to paint it and they want their paint to stick.

Go for an autoprimer. It will actually act as one. Chaos black spray isn't one. Formulation is all wrong for the task.

A primer etches into the surface to give the actual paint better tooth with the model (it makes the paint 'grab' the surface harder).

This part I'll moderately agree with.

However, I prefer Vallejo's primer. It's a little on the thin side, meaning multiple coats are necessary, but it has the bonus of not being freaking enamel car body primer, which will ruin and obscure details and doesn't ever really want to come off if you're stripping the model later.

You definately want to wash any resin kit with warm, soapy water. Paint won't stick well otherwise, and can actually just flake right off.

chromedog wrote:
EVEN FW recommend a different spray primer than GWs one.
I'd take THEIR suggestion anyday - they have to paint it and they want their paint to stick.

Go for an autoprimer. It will actually act as one. Chaos black spray isn't one. Formulation is all wrong for the task.

A primer etches into the surface to give the actual paint better tooth with the model (it makes the paint 'grab' the surface harder).

Well, in IA:masterclass they still recommend the GW black primer... Anyhoo, i've used the GW primer on many different FW resin products and they all seem to be fine. I do have to agree though, there are better primers out there (i've recently switched to using Tamiya Surface Primer).

Kanluwen wrote:
Yeah, see the reason why you clean resin isn't because "there might be a release agent still on the resin". It's because there will be release agent still on the resin, and it inevitably will cause your gorgeous paintjob to simply rub off while you handle the model.

While true, I'm just saying that being the incredibly lazy person I am and not doing the recommended washing for all the hordes of resin infantry, the paint is still staying on the models even with constant handling, so while it is highly recommended to wash them, if you forgot to or didn't know to wash them it's not the end of the world.