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2011/03/07 20:57:39
Subject: CSM 1500 Khorne/Nurgle
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Paingiver
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I bought a battle force and daemon prince a while back and am thinking of ideas on how to expand on it and I have thought of this:
Kharn 165
Daemon Prince 175
-Wings
-MoN
-Warptime
Berzerkersx7 222
-Skull Champion
-PowerFist
-Rhino
Plague Marinesx7 241
-Plague Champion
-Power Fist
-2 Melta
-Rhino
Plague Marinesx7 241
-Plague Champion
-Power Fist
-2 Melta
-Rhino
Oblieratorsx2 150
Oblieratorsx2 150
Oblieratorsx2 150
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I have also thought about dumping the DP and a unit of oblits for Typhus and a few more troops
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Kharn 165
Typhus 225
Berzerkersx9 274
-Skull Champion
-PowerFist
-Rhino, Extra Armor
Plague Marinesx8 264
-Plague Champion
-Power Fist
-2 Melta
-Rhino
Plague Marinesx8 264
-Plague Champion
-Power Fist
-2 Melta
-Rhino
Oblieratorsx2 150
Oblieratorsx2 150
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/03/07 22:12:28
Thus, After having thus successively taken each member of the community in its powerful grasp and fashioned him at will, the supreme power then extends its arm over the whole community. It covers the surface of society with a network of small complicated rules, minute and uniform, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate, to rise above the crowd. The will of man is not shattered, but softened, bent, and guided; men are seldom forced by it to act, but they are constantly restrained from acting. Such a power does not destroy, but it prevents existence; it does not tyrannize, but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd
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2011/04/18 19:34:20
Subject: Re:CSM 1500 Khorne/Nurgle
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Paingiver
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Bumping, took my eyes off CSM but I have an unassembled battalion I'd like to make use of. Liking the 2nd list because it utilized to named characters.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/04/18 19:34:44
Thus, After having thus successively taken each member of the community in its powerful grasp and fashioned him at will, the supreme power then extends its arm over the whole community. It covers the surface of society with a network of small complicated rules, minute and uniform, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate, to rise above the crowd. The will of man is not shattered, but softened, bent, and guided; men are seldom forced by it to act, but they are constantly restrained from acting. Such a power does not destroy, but it prevents existence; it does not tyrannize, but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd
-Alexis de Tocqueville. |
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2011/04/18 19:39:40
Subject: Re:CSM 1500 Khorne/Nurgle
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Battleship Captain
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First list looks better but you'd be better off dropping Kharn and using a 2nd DP.
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2011/04/18 23:39:34
Subject: CSM 1500 Khorne/Nurgle
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Rampaging Chaos Russ Driver
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I agree about the first list looking better, and for dropping Kharn (mostly because I hate using special characters that a list is not designed around). However I would not add another daemon prince, instead going for more troops, because more marines on the table is the road to victory!
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2011/04/20 01:21:29
Subject: Re:CSM 1500 Khorne/Nurgle
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Paingiver
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Ok so maybe:
Daemon Prince 175
-Wings
-MoN
-Warptime
Berzerkersx9 229
-Skull Champion
-PowerFist
Berzerkersx9 229
-Skull Champion
-PowerFist
Plague Marinesx7 241
-Plague Champion
-Power Fist
-2 Melta
-Rhino
Plague Marinesx7 241
-Plague Champion
-Power Fist
-2 Melta
-Rhino
Oblieratorsx2 150
Oblieratorsx2 150
Oblieratorsx1 75
1490
Get some melta bombs or personal icons for the bezerkers. I could also drop 3 bezerkers for Rhinos for them, but the bad thing is I would need to buy 2 more rhinos.
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Thus, After having thus successively taken each member of the community in its powerful grasp and fashioned him at will, the supreme power then extends its arm over the whole community. It covers the surface of society with a network of small complicated rules, minute and uniform, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate, to rise above the crowd. The will of man is not shattered, but softened, bent, and guided; men are seldom forced by it to act, but they are constantly restrained from acting. Such a power does not destroy, but it prevents existence; it does not tyrannize, but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd
-Alexis de Tocqueville. |
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2011/04/21 13:27:25
Subject: CSM 1500 Khorne/Nurgle
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Hungry Ghoul
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put the single oblit with one of the other squads, they die to fast other wise and don't do much. Also get a lash DP, would work better with ur army.
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warriors of chaos 2000pts
Wood Elves 1000pts
VC 1500pts 
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2011/04/21 21:51:59
Subject: Re:CSM 1500 Khorne/Nurgle
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Paingiver
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OK thanks for the tip. Will the Bezerkers be OK on foot? Should I add icons to any of the units? Right now with the lash prince change I am looking at some extra points:
Daemon Prince 155
-Wings
-MoS
-Lash
Berzerkersx9 229
-Skull Champion
-PowerFist
Berzerkersx9 229
-Skull Champion
-PowerFist
Plague Marinesx7 241
-Plague Champion
-Power Fist
-2 Melta
-Rhino
Plague Marinesx7 241
-Plague Champion
-Power Fist
-2 Melta
-Rhino
Oblieratorsx3 225
Oblieratorsx2 150
1470
30 pts left over, should I add a Berzerker or Plague Marine? If I do that gives me a few points left should I add an icon to one of the units and if so which one for possible deep striking the oblits?
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Thus, After having thus successively taken each member of the community in its powerful grasp and fashioned him at will, the supreme power then extends its arm over the whole community. It covers the surface of society with a network of small complicated rules, minute and uniform, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate, to rise above the crowd. The will of man is not shattered, but softened, bent, and guided; men are seldom forced by it to act, but they are constantly restrained from acting. Such a power does not destroy, but it prevents existence; it does not tyrannize, but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd
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2011/04/22 01:33:29
Subject: CSM 1500 Khorne/Nurgle
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berzerkers should not be on foot. crawling 6" every turn to reach an enemy isnt pleasant and we cant always rely on Lash to bring your opponent closer to CC with the berz.
i would actually even remove the berzerkers altogether and get regular csm for a more versatile unit that is can handle itself with firepower and in CC. With the points spare can consider either all the various marks (except tzeentch) for either CC effectiveness or to last out longer in the game.
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2011/04/22 02:09:15
Subject: Re:CSM 1500 Khorne/Nurgle
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Should drop the power fist on the zerkers and just take a power weapon and zerkers should never walk they will be shot to bits before they do anything
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2011/04/22 02:49:33
Subject: CSM 1500 Khorne/Nurgle
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Get rid of the powerfist on the Zerkers and put them in rhinos
DP 155
10 zerkers
rhino 245
7 PM
2 meltas
rhino 231
7 PM
2 meltas
rhino 231
3 oblit 225
3 oblit 225
3 olit 150
1493
leaves you a few points left over
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2011/04/22 05:29:49
Subject: Re:CSM 1500 Khorne/Nurgle
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Paingiver
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Thanks for the advice all. I really don't want to put the zerks into a Rhino as I don't want to buy one or buy another box of termies to convert for more oblits at this current time. I'm tempted to drop a unit of zerks, bump the remaining zerks to 13 strong and add in Kharn, I really just like him. And I would not be moving 6 inches a turn I would be running so it's like 9 1/2 inches a turn, 4 foot table I'm already 12 inches in so like 2 turns tops and I have a lash prince to speed it up bringing them their offering to Khorne. So with Kharn or without I still have 10 pts are those best spent on icons for DSing 1 or both of the oblits?
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Thus, After having thus successively taken each member of the community in its powerful grasp and fashioned him at will, the supreme power then extends its arm over the whole community. It covers the surface of society with a network of small complicated rules, minute and uniform, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate, to rise above the crowd. The will of man is not shattered, but softened, bent, and guided; men are seldom forced by it to act, but they are constantly restrained from acting. Such a power does not destroy, but it prevents existence; it does not tyrannize, but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd
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2011/04/22 06:19:57
Subject: CSM 1500 Khorne/Nurgle
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Hungry Ghoul
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don't deep strike the Oblits as they need 2 b on the table to regain their points, zerkers really need the rhino as they just get shot at so much because of the threat they pose and it gives extra movement
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warriors of chaos 2000pts
Wood Elves 1000pts
VC 1500pts
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2011/04/22 14:01:13
Subject: CSM 1500 Khorne/Nurgle
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer
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My advice:
NEVER footslog berzerkers
always break up obliterators into the smallest possible squads for better wound allocation / target preference
If you wanna use lash- use a sorceror in a rhino in one of your squada- not a daemon prince that can be targeted turn 1
Power fist is expensive for plague marines- think about how much 2 PF attacks a turn is worth to them- I'd consider dropping them and throwing in more oblits
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2011/04/22 15:30:29
Subject: Re:CSM 1500 Khorne/Nurgle
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Paingiver
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Thanks for the advice. For money's sake, at least for next month I am looking at:
Kharn 165
Daemon Prince 175
-Wings
-MoN
-Warptime
Berzerkersx8 264
-Skull Champion
-PowerFist
-Rhino
Plague Marinesx8 264
-Plague Champion
-Power Fist
-2 Melta
-Rhino
Plague Marinesx7 241
-Plague Champion
-Power Fist
-2 Melta
-Rhino
Oblieratorsx3 225
Oblieratorsx2 150
1484
I didn't feel comfortable dropping the power fists on the Plague Marines, I never know when I might get attacked by a deff dread or something they cannot handle so I think the 50 pts while expensive is worth the piece of mind. With everyone in Rhinos I have dropped the Lash, I also like I have consolidated back down to 2 chaos gods, I may try the lash and see how it goes. Still trying to decide on the extra 16 pts, I thought a plasma pistol would be cool but all my guys have PFs and it would hurt to lose them, so now I am thinking extra armor on one of the Rhinos or a havoc launcher.
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Thus, After having thus successively taken each member of the community in its powerful grasp and fashioned him at will, the supreme power then extends its arm over the whole community. It covers the surface of society with a network of small complicated rules, minute and uniform, through which the most original minds and the most energetic characters cannot penetrate, to rise above the crowd. The will of man is not shattered, but softened, bent, and guided; men are seldom forced by it to act, but they are constantly restrained from acting. Such a power does not destroy, but it prevents existence; it does not tyrannize, but it compresses, enervates, extinguishes, and stupefies a people, till each nation is reduced to nothing better than a flock of timid and industrious animals, of which the government is the shepherd
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2011/04/22 21:40:23
Subject: Re:CSM 1500 Khorne/Nurgle
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Khorne Veteran Marine with Chain-Axe
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2 x Nurgle Daemon Prince w/ warptime
2 X 8 Khorne Berzerkers w/ power fist champ & rhino
2 X 5 Plaguemarines w/ 2 melta guns & rhino
2 x 2 Obliterators
This is what I would run. Power fists for plague marines is too expensve at 1500 points. If a dread gets into your plague marines, then you've already made a mistake too big for power fists to fix.
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