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Im sure im right on this but a friend says im wrong so now im doubting myself - a terminator, or model in terminator can move and fire a heavy weapon, right? cyclone missile launcher, assault cannon, psycannon etc. there's no move or fire restriction. thanks dakka

Only if the model is relentless as I take it...

ColdSadHungry wrote:Im sure im right on this but a friend says im wrong so now im doubting myself - a terminator, or model in terminator can move and fire a heavy weapon, right? cyclone missile launcher, assault cannon, psycannon etc. there's no move or fire restriction. thanks dakka

They need to have the Relentless USR in order to move and shoot with heavy weapons, OR have a similar rule within their codex. For example Chaos Terminators dont get to fire rapid fire weapons as if they were stationary.

Survey of terminator armour shows:

Relentless USR: Black Templars, Blood Angels, Space Marines, Space Wolves

Move and fire heavy weapons: Chaos Space Marines, Daemonhunters (2003), Dark Angels

Homer

so can GKT move and fire psycannons?

Do GKT have the relentless USR? OR an equivalent rule?

Your answer is in the post by Homer, btw.

ColdSadHungry wrote:so can GKT move and fire psycannons?

Psycannons have TWO firing modes (in the old codex about to be replaced), one of which is Assault, so they can ALWAYS be fired on the move anyway.

Yes, GKT can fire psycannons to FULL, HEAVY range on the move (as opposed to the shorter Assault range).

As per their rule in the codex. Since it predates RELENTLESS (and 5th ed), they don't technically have that rule.

chromedog wrote:

ColdSadHungry wrote:so can GKT move and fire psycannons?

Psycannons have TWO firing modes (in the old codex about to be replaced), one of which is Assault, so they can ALWAYS be fired on the move anyway.

Yes, GKT can fire psycannons to FULL, HEAVY range on the move (as opposed to the shorter Assault range).

As per their rule in the codex. Since it predates RELENTLESS (and 5th ed), they don't technically have that rule.

The new Grey Knight codex is coming in less than a month, so it could change.

My comment is in regards to what is still the "current" (3rd ed) codex.

I cannot comment on something I've not yet seen.

And the scrib'd document dates back to 2009, and it will undoubtedly have changed somewhat from that form, so comments using that as a basis are equally useless.

Psycannon still have two firing modes....

ColdSadHungry wrote:so can GKT move and fire psycannons?

Were you confused by "Move and Fire Heavy Weapons"?

Do GKTs have Terminator Armour? Yes
Does Terminator Armour in Daemonhunters (2003) have a rule that permits moving and firing heavy weapons? Yes
Can a psycannon fire in either assault or heavy weapon mode? Yes

Yes, a GKT can move and fire a psycannon.

Homer