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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/09 21:01:39
Subject: 1750 eldar
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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eldrad, 5 warlocks w/embolden and enhance
prince yriel
5 fire dragons, exarch with fire pike.
10 harlequins, shadow seer, troupe master with power weapon, the rest with kisses
10 dire avengers, exarch with 2 catapults, bladestorm
wave serpent with twin linked bright lance, spirit stones
10 dire avengers, exarch with 2 catapults, bladestorm
wave serpent with twin linked bright lance, spirit stones
falcon with pulse laser , missle launcher and catapult, spirit stones and holofields
falcon with pulse laser , missle launcher and catapult, spirit stones and holofields
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/09 22:01:17
Subject: Re:1750 eldar
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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What is transporting what? Falcons are long range gun boats and should not be getting in range for Dragons nor melee.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/10 02:27:49
Subject: 1750 eldar
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
Arlington TX, but want to be back in Seattle WA
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I dont see enough of a presence on the battlefield to last very long. I think you should include more bodies/bikes in the list. Judging by the look of things I am assuming the Harlequins are on foot?
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4250 points of Blood Angels goodness, sweet and silky W12-L6-D4
1000 points of Teil-Shan (my own scheme) Eldar Craftworld in progress
800 points of unassembled Urban themed Imperial Guard
650 points of my do-it-yourself Tempest Guard
675 points of Commoraghs finest!
The Dude - "Jackie Treehorn treats objects like women, man."
Lord Helmet - "I bet she gives great helmet."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/10 20:57:05
Subject: 1750 eldar
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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Harlies are on foot, fire dragons and eldrad with warlock in falcons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/10 21:04:22
Subject: 1750 eldar
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Stoic Grail Knight
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ok ok ok I say this a lot, but NEVER EVER run fire dragons in falcons. That said I recognize that it is very easy to be fooled by the carrying capacity. However the Falcon grav tank plays an extremely different role than Fire Dragons. The role of fire dragons, is to fly into the heart of the enemy early on, and nuke a centerpiece of his army, this includes a land raider carrying TH/SS termies, etc, or a battle wagon full of nobs, etc. Often times this leaves the dragons and their tank in the middle of kill range for your opponent. The role of a Falcon is to make use of its 3 heavy weapons, and transport ability to take a min squad of Dire Avengers, then sit on an objective, and provide long range fire support. This is emphasized by its 2-3 heavy weapons. Consider this, if you move a Falcon 12 inches, it can only fire a single gun, at bs3. If you move a wave serpent 12 inches, it can fire its single turret tl at full effectiveness. This is infinately better. Further a wave serpent with a tl shuri cannon costs only 100 points. You feel much worse about losing it than an expensive 180 point falcon. Further a Wave Serpent's special rules are actually tailored for carrying fire dragons into the fray. the energy field rule protects it against close range anti tank- such as melta guns and rending weapons. On the other hand, the Falcon is no better at taking close range fire power than it is at taking long range fire power. these units are an awful mix, and create huge point inefficiencies in your list. The same goes for councils...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/11 07:06:23
Subject: 1750 eldar
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Horrific Howling Banshee
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Eldrad + council is a very expensive way to give guide to your falcon. Just sayin'
What does Yriel achieve in this list? At a glance, not much.
Bladestorm looks cool on paper, then you actually use it and nothing dies, and you get assaulted and die because you don't have defend or shimmershield. Is the answer to take those upgrades? No, the answer is to drop the squad to 5 with no exarch and don't leave the serpent. Even better, put them in the falcons.
On the topic of exarchs, drop the Fire Dragon one. If you can't get within 6" of a vehicle, then you probably can't get within 9" either, he's just costing you points.
Dragons need a serpent. Serpents needs to be as cheap as possible, it is going to die. Shuri cannon on top, 100 points square, thanks for coming. Stones only if you're 10 points short once you finish your list.
Why get stones on falcons? A falcon that can't shoot is just as good as a falcon that can't move or shoot, so stones just let you move your not-shooty gunboat around at max range, where it should be.
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2000 points 28W 2D 1L |
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