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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/10 19:42:43
Subject: Fluff Question.
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Flashy Flashgitz
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Anyone know the fluff of why don't we see chaos versions of anything but space marines? Why no chaos Orks?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/10 19:45:32
Subject: Fluff Question.
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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There have been 'Chaos Orks', but the problem is that Orks aren't really interested by anything the Ruinous Powers can offer. They're generally rare, or are just kind of 'touched by Chaos', rather than actively worshiping it.
As for the rest of the Xenos...
Tyranids can't worship Chaos; thus Chaos isn't really interested in them.
It takes the (relative) efforts that Daemons would have to expend to possess an entire Hive City to possess a small Tau colony. Thus, Tau are not interesting at all.
Dark and Craftworld Eldar have no interest, whatsoever, in Chaos. Maybe a few random Eldar will fall, but the race as a whole won't.
Necrons have the same thing as Tyranids going on.
Did I miss anything?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/10 19:47:25
Subject: Fluff Question.
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Guardsmen turn traitor but they are more or less heavily armed cultists...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/10 19:52:22
Subject: Fluff Question.
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Nigel Stillman
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Because all races have a different psychic footprint in the warp.
Orks have their own set of gods
Tyranids don't have any gods as they are technically one being
Tau I don't know about
Necrons have their own gods
Eldar have their own gods
Here's an example that illustrates my point, if ants had gods (gods which only were interested in the lives of ants) why would a human worship them?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/10 19:55:15
Subject: Fluff Question.
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Tau don't have a god, just the greater good.
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Dakka Bingo! By Ouze
"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/10 20:33:57
Subject: Re:Fluff Question.
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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chaos CAN corrupt anything, but generally you do not see these races corrupted in large numbers for the following reasons.
Orks- They are a bred race, engineered to fight wars. They enjoy fighting, but not killing (no Khorne), they do not fear death (no Nurgle), they are not indulgent (no Slaanesh), and they do not desire power (no tzeench). Also I think that the psykic power of the WAAAGGH! gives them a restance to warp energy and possession by demons.
Necrons- They have a limited/no presence in the warp and no longer feel any emotions. The C'tan are the "gods" of Realspace, where the Chaos Gods rule "warpspace". In general, all things warp related leave them alone.
Tau- Similar to the Necrons. They have a limited presence in the warp. Also, I am not sure but I think that the control that the Ethereals have over the Tau limits their ability to feel strong emotions and as such are not tempted by Chaos Gods at all.
Eldar/Dark Eldar- A large number of Eldar did turn to Chaos, their souls were consumed and thus Slaanesh was born. Any Eldar that are left are the ones who were resistant to Slaanesh and Chaos in general. They are either protected by Soulstones or the Webway.
Tyranids- one big reason, The Shadow in the Warp. Basically the hive mind block out the presence of the warp, thus denying demons the chance to try and possess the Tyranids.
Humans- Whether they are Space Marines, Ogryn, or regular humans, Chaos can corrupt them all. It is just that there are only rules for Chaos Space Marines in the main Codii. In the Imperial Armor books, there are a lot more rules for "regular" humans turned to chaos, and they appear in a lot of books.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/10 20:41:50
Subject: Re:Fluff Question.
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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svendrex wrote:chaos CAN corrupt anything, but generally you do not see these races corrupted in large numbers for the following reasons.
No, it can't. This is folly to assume so, and was mentioned as such in Codex: Daemonhunters.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/10 20:58:27
Subject: Re:Fluff Question.
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Kanluwen wrote:svendrex wrote:chaos CAN corrupt anything, but generally you do not see these races corrupted in large numbers for the following reasons.
No, it can't. This is folly to assume so, and was mentioned as such in Codex: Daemonhunters.
Necrons cannot be corrupted.
Tau have very little chance and almost no inclination...
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"You are the best at flying things"-Kanluwen
"Further proof that Purple is a fething brilliant super villain " -KingCracker
"Purp.. Im pretty sure I have a gun than can reach you...."-Nicorex
"That's not really an apocalypse. That's just Europe."-Grakmar
"almost as good as winning free cake at the tea drinking contest for an Englishman." -Reds8n
Seal up your lips and give no words but mum.
Equip, Reload. Do violence.
Watch for Gerry. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/10 21:00:00
Subject: Re:Fluff Question.
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Human Auxiliary to the Empire
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If I recall correctly the presence (notable or lack thereof) in the warp of a being also effects how likely a creature is to be tainted by Chaos, daemons don't care about things they don't notice. Eldar are supposed to have a very noticeable warp presence, likened to a strong, bright light, humans have a dimmer light and then you have Tau. The fluff in the Tau Empire codex suggests that it's not that Tau don't have a strong light/presence per se but it is akin to trying to looking at it through some heavy material, meaning it appears considerably dimmer to the denizens of the warp.
Also the power a being has over their own mind and desires seems to be important, Eldar have led a strict life to avoid temptation since The Fall and the Tau appear to be so engrossed in the Greater Good and Tau'Va that they are not interested in Chaos. Also in a similar vein Orks are so engrossed in fighting that they just ignore Chaos altogether and just focus on a good scrap. At least that's my interpretation from what I know and have read.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/10 22:00:15
Subject: Re:Fluff Question.
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Tau have no prescense in the warp.
Tyranids interfere with warp energy.
Eldar and Deldar can be turned by chaos, it's that most of them are scared  less of the thought of it.
Chaos Orks are plausible, in the old DH book there were two possibilities as to how they could end up worshipping chaos:
- Discovering a mutual lust for bloodshed as Khornate troops and taking a liking to it.
- Discovering an image of Papa Nurgle and mistaking the big green bugger for Gork (or possibly Mork)
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