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I have to admit that for all the hype I was underwhelmed with the Stormraven when it came out for BA. That said, one thing has caught my eye about its synergy with the new GK codex:

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the GK Grand Master can now give 1d3 units one of 3 special rules at the start of the game. Meaning you could load a death star unit (say a group of paladins with drago for example) into a raven, give it scouting from Drago, and then use the scout move to flat-out across the board to their lines before the first turn. If you don't have first turn or they steal the initiative you've still got a reasonable shot at the thing surviving thanks to its flat-out cover save. Even if the worst happens and it dies you've still got your death star unit on their front doorstep.

What say you Dakka? Good idea or waste of points?

A very good idea I think.

Have to wait for the real codex; but the leaked play-tester dex says Infantry, Jump infantry, MCs or Walker get the abilities; SR is none of those.

I also figure that this sticks.

Kommissar Kel wrote:Have to wait for the real codex; but the leaked play-tester dex says Infantry, Jump infantry, MCs or Walker get the abilities; SR is none of those.

I also figure that this sticks.

Ahhh... that makes sense. I guess I must have missed that bit.

Sadly it does not appear that Paladins can take a dedicated transport either.

GKTs can't either.

only the PAGKs can take Rhinos or Razorbacks.

Storm ravens suck and no it wont survive if it flies up to the front of my army I will focus fire and use rhinos to block the remaining paldin idiots. p.s paladins suck

Just be prepared for all the h8rs to tell why armies with 60 or more lascannons can easily bring it down...

rovian wrote:Storm ravens suck and no it wont survive if it flies up to the front of my army I will focus fire and use rhinos to block the remaining paldin idiots. p.s paladins suck

I bow down to your wisdom, o mighty one. Why, your brilliant powers of foresight can even tell us that a unit in a Codex that hasn't been released sucks. Truly, you are a giant amongst thinkers. All hail the exalted one!

Rovian is a doof. Ignore him.

Anyways, Ravens are a unit balanced for their cost, and to be honest, after playing with a GK list tonight, I dont think you will find Paladins are the way to go.

The amount of success 10 GKSS guys have with force halberds and psybolt ammo is sickening, especially against the Black Templars I played.



Besides, a duo of Obliter-apes matched with 8 Pskyers in a Chimera is 2 souped up lascannon shots and a Str 8 AP 1 LArge Blast for like, 166 points.

Storm Raven not necessary in the GK forces!

I agree that stormravens are not needed and it does not take 90 lascannons to shot it down it takes 4 long fangs with missile launchers to blow that up. The paladins do not suck. In warhammer "sucking" is tau fire warriors in close combat, or the necron codex. Paladins are not competitive. The model count is too low for them to be good.

Black Fiend wrote:Just be prepared for all the h8rs to tell why armies with 60 or more lascannons can easily bring it down...

Psh, what guard player worth his salt only takes 60 lascannons.

The only problem with that that I can think of would be that fighting your own army can stop this from happening with servo skulls or hydra flak guard. So pretty solid idea.

You will see a palladin squad ran as a DStar unit and that will be about it, nothing we haven't seen with thunderwolves and nob bikers, first few months the sky will fall then people will realise it can be countered and only the people who are any good will make them work after. If the whole every 5 GK get a special weapon and every GK palladin or termie squad gets 2 per five hold true form scandex to real codex, and psycannons are indeed rending that is were the competitive armies are gonna go, 5 termies with 2 psycannons make 14 shots 8 of them str 7 and rending, with psyboilt +1 to str that means 6 str 5 shots and then 8 str 8 shots, that will be brutal.

Agreed so also I my list is gonna be pyscannon spam because paladins will not be so great just because they are so expensive

I will also be doing Psycannon spam.


I might occasionally run a Palidin squad. just as a bodyguard unit for a Grandmaster. my Elite slots will be for Venerable Dreds to hang on the stormravens which will be holding either PAGKs or a Terminator squad.


i think a force of Terminators as troops and 3 squads of PAGKs with Teliporter packs could do well.

Terminators riding in Landraiders while the Teliporters make a big nusiance of themselves.