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2011/03/13 09:57:20
Subject: Losing -1 Attacks?
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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If I lose -1 Attacks... do I gain one? 
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2011/03/13 10:03:07
Subject: Losing -1 Attacks?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Nice try, but no, you don't. This question came up years ago in Magic The Gathering, when one card read "loses -1/-1". A lot of "savvy" players whipped out their high school math to trick this one.
The model loses 1 Attack...
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2011/03/13 10:03:45
Subject: Losing -1 Attacks?
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Fresh-Faced New User
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As above.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/03/13 10:04:48
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2011/03/13 10:07:52
Subject: Losing -1 Attacks?
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Nice try, but no, you don't. This question came up years ago in Magic The Gathering, when one card read "loses -1/-1". A lot of "savvy" players whipped out their high school math to trick this one.
The model loses 1 Attack...
Ceruleus wrote:As above.
Bleh, thought I'd change my arm on it, regardless. 
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/03/13 10:14:21
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2011/03/13 10:08:19
Subject: Losing -1 Attacks?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Nice try, but no, you don't. This question came up years ago in Magic The Gathering, when one card read "loses -1/-1".
Really? Which card...
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2011/03/13 10:09:30
Subject: Losing -1 Attacks?
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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The Monolith has a similar one when it gets a 'weapon destroyed' result and you subtract -1 shots.
By RAW, and the proper use of arithmetic rules, this is indeed what you should do.
By RAI, nope.
By now, we should all have realised that GW is as much fail as disappoint at both usage of English and arithmetic. This is despite their "order of operations" notes in the rules.
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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2011/03/13 10:16:17
Subject: Losing -1 Attacks?
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Khorne Chosen Marine Riding a Juggernaut
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chromedog wrote:The Monolith has a similar one when it gets a 'weapon destroyed' result and you subtract -1 shots.
By RAW, and the proper use of arithmetic rules, this is indeed what you should do.
By RAI, nope.
By now, we should all have realised that GW is as much fail as disappoint at both usage of English and arithmetic. This is despite their "order of operations" notes in the rules.
Sssh, keep your voice down; you might be getting a visit from the Inquisition any minute.  
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2011/03/13 10:19:31
Subject: Losing -1 Attacks?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I'm sorry, I seem to have temporarily forgotten my manners.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/03/14 22:46:36
What would Yeenoghu do? |
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2011/03/13 10:26:26
Subject: Losing -1 Attacks?
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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Popsicle wrote:
Sssh, keep your voice down; you might be getting a visit from the Inquisition any minute.
Heh.
They'll no doubt turn up to the WRONG address anyway - and end up nuking some poor schlobs house on the Gold Coast.
Even more fail and "son, I am disaappoint".
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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2011/03/13 10:58:30
Subject: Losing -1 Attacks?
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Willing Inquisitorial Excruciator
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yeenoghu wrote:look up the word "dictionary" in a dictionary. I think it says
"yeenoghu has bad manners and insults people over toy soldiers"
Dictionary
–noun
1.
a book containing a selection of the words of a language, usually arranged alphabetically, giving information about their meanings, pronunciations, etymologies, inflected forms, etc., expressed in either the same or another language; lexicon; glossary: a dictionary of English; a Japanese-English dictionary.
2.
a book giving information on particular subjects or on a particular class of words, names, or facts, usually arranged alphabetically: a biographical dictionary; a dictionary of mathematics.
3.
Computers .
a.
a list of codes, terms, keys, etc., and their meanings, used by a computer program or system.
b.
a list of words used by a word-processing program as the standard against which to check the spelling of text entered.
Couldn't resist.
But back away from the tangent. I think you'd have to be a serious  to enforce the RAW here (yes we all know - -1 = +1 but this is from the guys who think raising prices makes profits go up  )
Yet another example of GW's amazing proof reading skills...
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2011/03/13 14:07:33
Subject: Losing -1 Attacks?
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Dakka Veteran
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I see all the math pedantry in this thread and raise a grammar pedantry.
Losing -1 Attack would require you to have a "-1 Attack" to lose. So RAW would be that it would remove a -1 Attack modifier.
Excuse me, I have to go organize my sock drawer by thread count.
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2011/03/13 16:18:42
Subject: Losing -1 Attacks?
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Captain of the Forlorn Hope
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Remember it is not a minus sign in front of the 1, it is a dash.
so the model loses (dash) 1 attack.
They did not need to put the dash in there, but they are wacky guys!
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2011/03/13 17:39:25
Subject: Losing -1 Attacks?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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ChrisCP wrote:SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Nice try, but no, you don't. This question came up years ago in Magic The Gathering, when one card read "loses -1/-1".
Really? Which card...
Up until Fourth Edition, Weakness read "target creature loses -1/-1."
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2011/03/13 23:40:48
Subject: Losing -1 Attacks?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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SoloFalcon1138 wrote:ChrisCP wrote:SoloFalcon1138 wrote:Nice try, but no, you don't. This question came up years ago in Magic The Gathering, when one card read "loses -1/-1".
Really? Which card...
Up until Fourth Edition, Weakness read "target creature loses -1/-1."
That'd be wrong then, weakness reads "loses -2/-1"
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