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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/13 17:02:39
Subject: What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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After seeing the GK codex I'm kind of underwhelmed. I think it's a good codex, but it seems like an all Terminator/Dreadknight army will get so badly hemorrhaged in even casual play, that it's not worth building the army. My plan was to make a terminator heavy army, but it seems like that plan is for naught now.
I really like the Dreadknight model and I'm wondering what people think of using it as a plain Dreadnought in a marine army, or as tanks in an IG army. This is assuming it was mounted on the proper base size, etc...
Thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/13 17:30:51
Subject: Re:What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Nothing?
Seriously, it is nothing like anything else. Only thing you may be able to pass it off as is a Defiler.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/13 17:35:48
Subject: What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I know there is some kind of mini titan called a Knight something but I'm not sure how big it is compared to a Dreadknight in fluff. I'm not really sure how any of the other marine armies could have them unless the machine was more common in the days of the HH and the GK are just the only chapter that still has them. So if you did a HH era army then maybe you could have some but I'm not sure on their fluff so don't quote me on that.
It would be cool though to see versions of it for other chapters, like one in Imperial Fists colors defending the Imperial Palace against the traitor marines.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/13 17:37:35
Subject: What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Mesopotamia. The Kingdom Where we Secretly Reign.
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It would make a pretty cool Master of the Forge conversion with a bit of tweaking.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/13 18:13:54
Subject: What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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It would count as *gasp* a Dreadknight. It's too big for a dreadnought, and too small to be a knight paladin.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/13 18:21:03
Subject: What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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SoloFalcon1138 wrote:It would count as *gasp* a Dreadknight. It's too big for a dreadnought, and too small to be a knight paladin.
You can't have a dreadknight in a vanilla marines army.
I would count it as a dreadnought myself, it may block LoS for things behind it but it is a bigger target itself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/13 19:51:28
Subject: What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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RogueSangre
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I find that it's a more appropriate visual representation of Mephiston's stat line.
I'm sorry. Nothing with T6 or higher should be on anything less than a 40mm base.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/13 19:54:44
Subject: What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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Nothing. Maybe a trygon. Or old one eye.
Nothing else is that big. Shorten it's legs, throw it on a 60mm base and call it a dreadnought
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If only ZUN!bar were here... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/13 19:58:05
Subject: What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Looted wagon (applies to Almost Anything (tm) )
Deff dredd?
Ghazgkulls new pimp-ride?
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/13 20:01:11
Subject: What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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You do realise this is for Space Marine armies don't you
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/13 20:04:28
Subject: What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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Napoleonics Obsesser
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For Space marines? Thunderbird cannon? Marneus calgar?
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If only ZUN!bar were here... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/13 20:05:20
Subject: What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker
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I'm going to count it as a defiler in my chaos marines army. Probs gonna give it 4 arms, 2 of which holding a big cannon.
But for vanilla marines, face it, there's nothing it could count as.
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Chaos Space Marines, The Skull Guard: 4500pts
Fists of Dorn: 1500pts
Wood Elves, Awakened of Spring: 3425pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/13 20:06:42
Subject: What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Ork allies, then  The Bloodaxes are prone to that kind of thing.
Fitting it into a Marine army as-is would be ridiculous, as it doesn't have the right size/silouette for anything in the lists.
It's too big for any kind of dreadnought, and too small for any kind of titan. I'm sure eventually ALL chapters will be retconned to have them, but at present i don't think it would work with any unit.
In the Guard you could run it as a really big variant sentinel (they are a bit taller than dreads i think), but I can't think of anything else in the Guard list that would fit.
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/13 20:13:45
Subject: Re:What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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Raging Ravener
Mid-Michigan
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Stormraven
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/13 20:28:29
Subject: What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Commander Endova wrote:I find that it's a more appropriate visual representation of Mephiston's stat line.
I'm sorry. Nothing with T6 or higher should be on anything less than a 40mm base.
Well I would put it on a Dreadnought base which is 60mm or if I made it a tank, it would be on a square base the same size as the tank I was counting it as (either Leman Russ size or Chimera Size).
I've seen a lot of people beef up their dreadnoughts to the point that they were 4-6" tall. Not sure why this idea is meeting with such resistance.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/13 20:45:06
Subject: What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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I want to see it as a Stormraven. It could even do a superman pose while dragging 10 marines on baby straps and a dreadnought on it's back.
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Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/14 06:41:13
Subject: What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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The Hammer of Witches
A new day, a new time zone.
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Monster Rain wrote:It would make a pretty cool Master of the Forge conversion with a bit of tweaking.
It'd be a hell of a MotF on bike w/Conversion Beamer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/15 05:06:00
Subject: What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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Brainy Zoanthrope
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@Samus_aran115: Please dont ever classify Trygon with old one eye....ever...
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Hive Fleet Ryujin 3000 Points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/15 05:46:37
Subject: What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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Renegade Inquisitor with a Bound Daemon
Tied and gagged in the back of your car
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I'm not going to go into my opinion on the model, but I will say this:
Dreadknights will do fine in competetive play. Keep them cheap (under 200 points) and use them as fire magnets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/15 10:14:09
Subject: What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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Fafnir wrote:I'm not going to go into my opinion on the model, but I will say this:
Dreadknights will do fine in competetive play. Keep them cheap (under 200 points) and use them as fire magnets.
Or give them teleporters, bringing them to 200 points, and scout-shunt into a first-turn assault.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/15 11:56:48
Subject: What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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Hurr! Ogryn Bone 'Ead!
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I'm thinking of giving the Dreadknight a weapon swap for a lasgun and counting them as Imperial Guard. I figure once GW finds out I'll need about 130 of them they'll write a FAQ allowing me to do this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/15 12:10:49
Subject: What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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You could use it to represent Vaylund Cal, from IA10.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/15 13:41:07
Subject: What can Dreadknights Count as in Other Marine Armies?
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Ultramarine Terminator with Assault Cannon
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It could easily be used in a Mechanicus army.
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