SM veteran Sergeant

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**Devastator**

HQ choice 70p

(same stats as SM sergeants except two wounds)

Power armor
Bolt pistol+Ccw
Bolter
frag/krak grenades

may replace bolter for
combi-weapon 10p
sniper rifle/shotgun free
storm bolter 3p

may replace bolt pistol for
plasma pistol/lightning claw 15p
storm shield 30p

may replace CCW for
power weapon/lightning claw 15p
power fist 25p
thunder hammer 30p

may take jump pack for 15p
may replace power armor for Recon armor -10p (cannot be taken with jump pack)
may take melta bomb for 5p
may take Special issue ammunition for 15p

Recon armor
gives Infiltrate, Scouts, and Move Through Cover usrs

special rules
And They Shall
Know No Fear
Combat Tactics

temporary command
may only be as taken at games that are 1k or smaller in point value

One squad in the army may replace its Sergeant with veteran sergeant,
if not vet stg has independent character special rule

Recon armor
gives Infiltrate, Scouts, and Move Through Cover usrs

**purplefood**

I like...
Could use a few more weapon options...

**Valkyrie**

Why would a Veteran downgrade his armour to Scout armour?

**Devastator**

ever heard about scout sergeants?
its option for fluff and to have ability to ride LSS
its also reduces his point cost

@purplefood
only weapons i could think of are th/ss
any suggestions?

**Valkyrie**

Of course I've heard of Scout Sergeants. What I mean is, Veterans have no access to Scout Armour at all in the fluff, they only have the option for Artificier Armour or Terminator Armour. It also doesn't make sense from a rules viewpoint: I can choose to reduce his survivalbility in order to let him ride in an LSS. Unless I take an LSS just for him there's no point to it. I would change it so that giving him Scout Armour gives him Infiltrate, Scouts, and Move Through Cover.

**Devastator**

usr armor done
and some weapons added too

is there anything else?

vets have nearly full access to armory so they could take scout armor
and what if this vet sergeant is scout sergeant?)

**Sledgio**

I like it, very cool

**Jone96**

1wound HQ? Lol. Too high cost, too few weapon options and that only to 1000pts or less rule. Still good idea but more wounds, maby 2 and stats could be same as chaplains.

**Devastator**

ok this is getting ridiculous
what the hell do you want as options?
earthshaker cannon?

two wounds okey

**purplefood**

Terminator armour?
Relic weapon?
Digital weapons? (Not sure on this though)

**DAaddict**

Thank you - as does all firepower armies - Give me a 70 pt cmdr and I will turn those into more shooty things.

**Devastator**

why should this guy have TDA armor?
to roam with terminators?(who the hell takes nators in 1k?)
relic weapons as their name says are relics
leave them to captains
see above for digital

@DAadit what?

**Fexor**

Space Wolves can take a 5 man squad of Terminators for 165pts. Easily doable at 1k points. Just saying.

**Devastator**

too bad that this is for vanilla

**Formosa**

Valkyrie wrote:Of course I've heard of Scout Sergeants. What I mean is, Veterans have no access to Scout Armour at all in the fluff, they only have the option for Artificier Armour or Terminator Armour. It also doesn't make sense from a rules viewpoint: I can choose to reduce his survivalbility in order to let him ride in an LSS. Unless I take an LSS just for him there's no point to it. I would change it so that giving him Scout Armour gives him Infiltrate, Scouts, and Move Through Cover.

Vet Sarge Namaan

He chose to be a Scout sergeant

as to the OP, i like it, may use this for a 40k in 40 mins game

**ph34r**

Valkyrie wrote:Of course I've heard of Scout Sergeants. What I mean is, Veterans have no access to Scout Armour at all in the fluff, they only have the option for Artificier Armour or Terminator Armour.

Heh. Sorry, no.

See: Tellion, Cyrus

**Formosa**

ph34r wrote:
Valkyrie wrote:Of course I've heard of Scout Sergeants. What I mean is, Veterans have no access to Scout Armour at all in the fluff, they only have the option for Artificier Armour or Terminator Armour.
Heh. Sorry, no.

See: Tellion, Cyrus, Namaan

Fixed that