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Ok, so here's the deal. I just recently bought Dragon Age: origins because when it first came out I was busy with army stuff. Many many months later I see an ad for "DRAGON AGE TWO!!" on Steam, and think to myself "Hmm, you know I never did try that game. I really liked Mass Effect, it was a great game. Maybe I'll like this. Hmm, the reviews seem very good. I think I'll buy it."

So, I start playing, on normal of course like any other game, story seems great. Interesting dialogue between the main characters. I chose the homicide option every time (it's a nice way to express my inner serial killer) and then gak starts getting hard. "Damn this is really kicking my ass" I thought to myself. "I guess it's not just a mindless clicky clicky rpg. Hmm tactics slots, huh? Why am I only limited to three slots? Why do I have to program them to do what they should do without me telling them? ...*sigh* ah well." So I spend 30 minutes figuring out the best tactics for each character, unpause and got into a fight... and get slaughtered.

"You gotta be tactical" the gameover screen says.

....TACTICAL?! Don't tell me about tactics, MOTHER fether!! I'm in the fething woods every other week doing real life tactics, I know this gak! Don't blame me for your slowed AI!! Tactics only work if the people you're using to employ them actually have a fething brain!! If my mage is picking her fething nose while dogs are ripping my face off, tactics don't work. If my heavy hitter is jerking off in the corner, tactics don't work. It shouldn't be "if health is below X% use Y" it should be "IF YOU'RE HEALTH IS LOW HEAL YOURSELF, gak!!!"

Take Star Ocean for example. They have a tactics system. It works great. If your ranged, use any and all of your ranged attacks. If you're a healer, use your heally spells. If your a groundpounder, pound gak into the ground. Simple as that.

"Spend points to unlock more tactics slots" ...So you want me to level up my characters so they can be slightly less stupid? feth you.


*PHEW* Ok, I feel better now. It seemed like such a great game, but the gameplay has pissed me off to no end. I know I'm not the best strategist, but I know I'm not THAT bad. I can hold my own in DoW II pretty well, no amazing player but I do win from time to time.

Anybody else feel the same?

HOW TO WIN DA:O

Option A: Be a mage, take Morrigan and Leliana.

Spam Cone of Cold and have Leliana shoot the gak out of everything.

Option B: Take Wynne, Morrigan and Leliana, be a rogue.

Spam Cone of Cold and shoot the gak out of everything with Leliana.

I don't know if they patched it, but CoC was absolutely gamebreaking when I played through DA:O.

First time I played, I was a tank and I had a healer, nuker and rogue with me all the time, like it had to be a balanced WOW party. 2nd time around, I was a rogue archer, and I just took Alistar to hold agro while the rest of the group blew everything to bits. I tore through the game in less than half the time the first go around took.

I don't even bother with tactics, I just pick their role on the tactics screen and let them do their own thing and it always worked for me.

When playing I was a DPS had a tank, healer/buffer and a healer/buffer.

Once i was lv 10 nothing could stop me.

Tank runs forwards does his aggro thing. Everyone gathers around him. I span cone of cold on the pack, not even caring for my tank...
And i DPS frozen popsicles at a high rate.... Such an easy game. Especially when i had blood magic, double swords, superspeed, flaming buff and master lightning stones
in my blades. Even the end boss was a walk over.


But i have to admit the AI is rubbish..... The best way to go at it is to continualy pause, click actions....watch them do it and repeat.

sillyboy wrote:Even the end boss was a walk over.

Silly sillyboy, why didn't you spam the ballistas?

But.......... I had a shiny sword

Step 1 - Be a mage.
Step 2 - ???
Step 3 - Profit.

Ah, I think I see my problem. Agro, tank, buffer. I'm not a WoW kinda guy. I guess I approached this game the wrong way. I mean, I knew it was an rpg, I know how to pick the good spells to use. But damn, it's outrageous. I use a rouge with duel swords and the game is like "maneuver behind the bad guy to backstab him." ...um, don't know if you noticed Mr. Gameover-Screen, but everything turns into a clusterfeth anyway. I try to use a choke point to funnel them through a doorway to attack them in smaller numbers... But uh, that doesn't work either.

I tried a stabbyrogue and didn't like it, but an archer rogue is great. But, stabbyrogue works great in DA2. when you backstab you just poof behind your target, then you get to watch em explode in a bloody mess. Assassinate is even better.

some info, i found this to be helpfull.

Just don't watch the walkthroughs... I hate those.

http://mycheats.1up.com/view/superguide/2019479/dragon_age_origins/pc

For what its worth, I think that being a dick in the game makes life a little more difficult in general (i'm assuming if you are going for confrontation/serial killer, your toon comes across as an arse more often than not). I recall an interview with the developers how they wanted you to be tactical in the rpg element and how you reacted to situations could affect the difficulty of any given scenario.

Nah, I'm a homicidal maniac that loves his buddies the mostest. Sten actually greatly approves of my slaughtering. Morrigan of course is the easiest to gain friendship with. Within the first five minutes of gaining her in my party my homicidal NPC counterpart had his face lodged into her's.

Women... they makes no sense.

Its a rubbish dungeon running shinanigan game, its all about never winter nights 1 the community on that is really good for proper d&d experiences, as is nwn 2

gingermist wrote:Its a rubbish dungeon running shinanigan game, its all about never winter nights 1 the community on that is really good for proper d&d experiences, as is nwn 2

This is an example of those not to listen to.

Karon wrote:

gingermist wrote:Its a rubbish dungeon running shinanigan game, its all about never winter nights 1 the community on that is really good for proper d&d experiences, as is nwn 2

This is an example of those not to listen to.

That is a very good point, don't listen to me I totally misread the thread, It was well late though in my defence