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Hi!
I´m new to the warhammer fantasy game and have started out collecting a lizardmen army. After reding the 8th edition rules and the lizardmen codex I´ve come up with a couple of questions I think better be solved before I start playing with my friends, who are also new(!), and have a way of instantly interpretating rules to their own benefit whenever we´ve been playing 40K or ordinary pen & paper RPGs... So I have turned to you more experienced people and hope you can shed som light on these questions for me ^^


Alright, here they come!

1.) I´m reading about dragons in the 8th edition rulebook and notice that dragons can only use their breath template attack ONCE per game. So I was wondering if the same goes for the lizzies salamanders?

2.) Talking about dragons, beath weapons and salamanders, can salmanders use their breath weapon in CC just as dragons can?

3.) Moving on to the awesome toad! I´m aiming for "The focused rumination" for his standard discipline and was wondering if that extra D6 is any help overcoming the minimum limit of 3 on your dice roll for being able to channel a magic at all?

4.) Might be a stupid question, but this dice also adds upp for irresistable force, right?

5.) It´s says that he work out his line of sight as if he was a large target... does it mean that he´ll benefit from the 18 inches Ld-range for units using his Ld?

6.) Last question about the slann: How do YOU do when measuring range for his spells? Are you suposed to start from his unit, or from his own edge? In case of the latter (which sound the most logical), wouldn´t it be easier measure from the front templeguard and the substract an inch from the range?

7.) The kroxigor/skink unit i see people refer to as "Skroxigors" on the web says in the codex "not be able to perform a turn move". Is this something I have missed, or does it simply mean they can't perform a "wheel move"?

(8. If they can´t wheel... I could still declare a charge against an enemy flank as long as it is in my forward arc, right? And hence get the free wheelin´s in a charge to get there?)

That´s really all I can come up with for the moment, even if I´m sure there´s countless misunderstandings crawling around in that codex

Thanks in advance!

The first two have one answer: A salamander's ranged attack isn't a breath weapon.

3) Unsure of what you're asking, please could you rephrase?

4) Yes, the extra D6 added to casting attempts is a power dice and can cause irresistible force; it also counts towards the power limit. (So if you have a full power dice pool, you cannot use focussued rumination to add any dice to your casting attempts until there is room.)

5) This has been Erreta'd, see: http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m1610148a_FAQ_Lizardmen_V1_3.pdf

6) Range is measured from the Slann model (so a select few spells he casts will hit any temple guard in front of him, but I can't remember which spells do this and how many).

7) See the FAQ

8) See the answer to question 7.

I believe question 3 is asking whether the extra D6 from rumination counts towards overcoming the "minimum of 3 to cast" restriction.

Treat the die as if it were just another power die, and follow the section for successful casting attempts.

I undrstood the same for 3) also note it is no longer "minimum 3 to cast" but "you fail on natural dice roll of 1 or 2", to get around bonuses to casting from your level, etc.

THis means if you roll 3 dice you cannot automatically fail to cast a spell, hence why FR is so powerful - you can 3 dice cast without risk of losing casting, while only using 2 real dice.

Great! Thanks for the answers, and the errata, it solved alot of my problems

And that´s indeed what I meant about all my mumlbing concerning "minimum of 3"! Hence, this is making me even happier over my choice of Rumination ^^

The only problem left for the magic phase I guess would be the risk of not being able to blow one off, and therefor being prevented from casting any more spells. I guess lore of life would minimise the risk of failing, since "Throne of vines" makes you a bit bolder about putting dices into spells

A quick followup question!

Lets say I successfully cast "Awakening of the Wood". No attempt to dispel it, it hits home and I´m all good and happy, except that I can´t attempt to throw it again.

Then lets say instead it is dispelled... can I give it another try? Since it´s not really "cast" I mean... (I´m mostly asking because I saw somewhere on a tactica that you really should try to get "Throne" of first, no matter how many times you had to try because of dispells, aslong as it was the first spell you could get to go off O.o)

(And btw... Thrones is about the only reason I´ll choos the discipline making my Slann a loremaster instead of the +1 spell plaque, so I won´t miss it! Don´t want my frog ending up in som scary chaosportal you know...)

I think the situation you are describing is covered in the rulebook actually, but to clarify, if you meet the casting value of a spell it counts as cast irrespective if it gets dispelled or not. In a similar vein you can't attempt to cast a spell more than once with the same caster, so no you can't just keep trying to cast Throne until you get it (that's definitely covered in the rulebook).

You are only allowed to *attempt* each spell once per magic phase. Whether the spell is succesfully cast or not, you can only attempt it noce.

Vamps have a specific rule around this, but theyre special (and grimy)

Aight, thanks alot for quick answers! ^^

My rulebook lies at "home in my homwtown", instead of home in the city I live in now, so sorry for bothering you instead of reading (since I can´t )

I think that´s all... (damn dakkadakka rules!)