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Hello All,

Thanks in advance for helping me with this question. Do gauss weapons count as close combat weapons?

Cheers
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I am not sure what the question is, you cannot use a shooting weapon in close combat??

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Yes because a rifle butt counts as a close combat weapon.

But note that you don't actually need a close combat weapon to fight in close combat. What close combat weapons the model has will determine if the model will get +1 attack for having two single handed close combat weapons.
   
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Not Necessarily.

Look at the rules for close combat weapons on page 42.

If the question is "Can you bash someone's head in with a gauss rifle in CC?" then yes.

If the question is "Can you shoot a gauss weapon in CC?" then no.

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I don't believe having a rifle is enough to warrant the 'close combat weapon'. That's just an example of one a model might have. If it has one attack, then we can assume it gets that attack from something like a rifle.

Unless 'gauss' weapons are different from normal guns (lasgun,bolter, etc.)


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vwjetta1997 wrote:Hello All,

Thanks in advance for helping me with this question. Do gauss weapons count as close combat weapons?

Cheers
-vwjetta1997-


Only if its a Pistol or the weapon says so.

Guass Weapon do not say they are CCW.

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Noir wrote:
vwjetta1997 wrote:Hello All,

Thanks in advance for helping me with this question. Do gauss weapons count as close combat weapons?

Cheers
-vwjetta1997-


Only if its a Pistol or the weapon says so.

Guass Weapon do not say they are CCW.


page 42, the paragraph under "Fighting With Two Single-Handed Weapons"

"two-handed close combat weapon (such as a rifle's butt.."
   
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kmdl1066 wrote:
Noir wrote:
vwjetta1997 wrote:Hello All,

Thanks in advance for helping me with this question. Do gauss weapons count as close combat weapons?

Cheers
-vwjetta1997-


Only if its a Pistol or the weapon says so.

Guass Weapon do not say they are CCW.


page 42, the paragraph under "Fighting With Two Single-Handed Weapons"

"two-handed close combat weapon (such as a rifle's butt.."


My bad, I was assuming he meant CCW not two-hand CCW as theres a big difference.

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Sorry, I'll clarify my question.

Does a gauss weapon count as a close combat weapon in order to gain +1 attack during close combat?







 
   
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vwjetta1997 wrote:Sorry, I'll clarify my question.

Does a gauss weapon count as a close combat weapon in order to gain +1 attack during close combat?


Answer: NO


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You are both right; It is a CCW, just not a Single-handed Close combat weapon.

or more to the point you cannot Gain a Bonus Attack from any ranged Weapon unless it has special rules that state you do(Kroot Rifles, pistols, burnas situationally)

For the Purposes of this discussion it is a Simple "yes, Gauss Weapons count as CCWs"; but that is because there are no models that have a gauss weapon and a Single handed CCW(Special or otherwise) that could benefit from the 2 single handed CCW rules.

Gah; Damn ninjas: The simple answer to your restated Question is "No" for the same reasons as above.

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Thanks for the responses all.

I'm going to cut the axe heads off of all my warriors gauss weapons now.... ;^)







 
   
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Only do that if you prefer the look that way. The axe heads are just there for looks.

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In fact you can assume that's what they are hitting you with (it's even in the fluff in the codex) as the gauss flayer doesn't really have a butt, just a kind of handgrip right next to the delicate tech that makes it work.

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vwjetta1997 wrote:Sorry, I'll clarify my question.

Does a gauss weapon count as a close combat weapon in order to gain +1 attack during close combat?

You do realise that you need two CCWs to get +1 attack during close combat?
   
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Scott-S6 wrote:
vwjetta1997 wrote:Sorry, I'll clarify my question.

Does a gauss weapon count as a close combat weapon in order to gain +1 attack during close combat?

You do realise that you need two CCWs to get +1 attack during close combat?


To clarify, you need two one-handed CCW to get the +1. A pistol and a sword would give you the bonus, but a sword and the gauss rifle wouldn't.

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sailense wrote:
Scott-S6 wrote:
vwjetta1997 wrote:Sorry, I'll clarify my question.

Does a gauss weapon count as a close combat weapon in order to gain +1 attack during close combat?

You do realise that you need two CCWs to get +1 attack during close combat?


To clarify, you need two one-handed CCW to get the +1. A pistol and a sword would give you the bonus, but a sword and the gauss rifle wouldn't.

Incorrect. Two-handed weapons prevent you from getting the bonus for two weapons.

The Necron codex, like the majority of current codexes - does not classify weapons as one-handed or two-handed.

Gauss weapons are not classified as being CCWs of any kind.

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If it helps, just tell yourself that the warriors cc weapon is the blade on the end of the gun. They've only got one blade, so they only get 1 attack.

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