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Simple question, are deep strikes allowed with Dawn of War Deployment on the first turn?

I know the rulebook says reserves can only come in from the second turn onward, including deep strike. With Dawn of War deployment you have the rest of your army deploy from reserves on the first turn, dose this allow for deep stirkes as well?

With Dawn of War you either reserve your non-2-troops,-1-HQ units; or they walk on from board edge.

The only way you can Deep-strike or outflank with a unit in any scenario(without special rules allowing it) is by placing those units in reserve. this is because it is when preparing reserves that you declare the units will be deploying in those manners.

Deepstrike is standard reserves not DoW deployment. If you are planning to deepstrike that has to go in standard reserves.

The only exception is drop pod assault and other abilities like it.

BlueDagger wrote:The only exception is drop pod assault and other abilities like it.

Which still require placing the Drop pods into reserves, and preparing them for Deepstrike.

the only way to deepstrike anything(that I can think of right now) without first placing it in reserves and preparing it for Deepstrike, is Eldar Swooping hawks using Skyleap(but then you still would not be able to have them Deepstrike first turn).

Not srue what you are getting at there, everything that is deepstriking from reserves obviously has to come from reserves.

Gate of Infinity, Veil of Darkness etc can DS from their position on the board to another location in turn one, but that isn't really what the OP is talking about.

Bampfing from Point to point is not removing a unit from the table and placing it in reserves. Skyleap does do that.

You had stated that an exception to units having to go into reserves was Drop pods with the Drop pod assault rule; that is not correct, the Drop pods must still go into reserves; Half of them just arrive turn 1.

The actual wording of the DoW rules make this very clear - the summary the OP provided was quite biased.

"All units that were not deployed, and were not declared to be in reserve during deployment, must enter the game in the movement phase of their first player turn by moving in from their own table ege, just like units moving in from reserve."

There is no scope in there for arriving by outflank, deep strike or any other special method of entering from reserves on T1 (edit for darkjediben)

Scott, what on earth are you talking about.

""All units that were not deployed, and were not declared to be in reserve during deployment, must enter the game in the movement phase of their first player turn by moving in from their own table ege, just like units moving in from reserve."

All units that WERE NOT DECLARED TO BE IN RESERVE.

In order to outflank, or deep strike, or drop pod, you have to BE IN RESERVE.

So it actually specifically DOES allow those methods of entry.

But not in turn 1. Which is what the OP was asking about.

But Deathwing Assault would allow for this.

SoloFalcon1138 wrote:But Deathwing Assault would allow for this.

Yes, but that is an entry from reserve using special rules - you can do that in any type of deployment.


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Darkjediben wrote:In order to outflank, or deep strike, or drop pod, you have to BE IN RESERVE.
So it actually specifically DOES allow those methods of entry.

Did you even read the OP's question?

You can not deep strike onto the field during turn 1 unless otherwise allowed by such oddity methods, Deathwing Assault, Drop Pod Assault and Demonic Assault(Demons deployment), or any other such methods. After deploying (if at all) your hq and 2 troops, you declare which are walking in and which are in reserve. After that they work as normal, meaning if they don't have some method mentioned above they more then likely wont be able to deep strike in on first turn.

Also if you look at the specific entries (which i think will actually answer your question) I know the ones mentioned above state you may always enter play in this manner reguardless of the scenario outline.

I believe the exact wording usually follows as :
"A [insert type here] always enters play using the Deep Strike rules, even in missions that do not use these rule." (with deathwing I assume they MAY enter play not always)