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Howdy,

I want to double check couple of these questions with you guys.

1. Pitched battle and Seize Ground. Player "A" have a unit with infiltrate, and player "A" is deploying first, does player "A" have to state if the infiltrator is infiltrating or outflanking before player "B" deploys? Since infiltrator deploys last after both players deployed, can player "A" choose outflanking instead of infiltrating during that phase?

2. Take a look of the picture on page 41 regarding multi-combats. Let say the orks and gretchin charged the space marines. If there are more ork boyz behind the gretchins (the boyz wrap around behind the gretchins), are all the ork boyz within 2" of those gretchin allow to attack?

3. If a unit shoot something like ork boyz, does that unit must assault those ork boyz if possible, or can that unit just stand still on the assault phase?

Thanks

My understanding:

1. During deployment you have to declare if units are outflanking

2. Models have to be within 2" of a model of their unit that is in base to base contact with the enemy to count as engaged. Being within 2" of models in another unit doesn't help you.

3. No you don't have to assault the unit you shot at. But if you do choose to assault then you must assault the unit you shot at.

Edit: In case you weren't aware, there is both an errata and an FAQ for page 41.

kmdl1066 has it right - a little more detail on point 1, though.

1. During deployment you declare which units are in reserve (and if they're deep striking or outflanking). Infiltrators aren't declared as such but if they aren't deployed or put into reserve then infiltrating is their own way onto the table (except in dawn of war).
You can't put something into reserve (e.g. for outflanking) after the player going second has deployed.

I may be confusing myself when I was reading the infiltrate and outflank ruling. Infiltrate stated this type of units are deployed last after all other units (friends and foe) have been deployed, so Infiltrators are deployed after player "B" made his or her deployment. Now outflank stated, during deployment, players may declare that units with infiltrate' special rules are attempting to outflank the enemy. Putting them together, I thought even player "A" is deploying first, he or she may choose to outflank on infiltrator's deployment phase, or during player "B's" deployment phase, declare outflank because the outflank rule did not state during whose deployment.


Another quick questions. Let say I have 3 nobz equip differently. Nob "A" and "B" each have 1 wound on them already. Now they got shot by unit causing a single wound; can I put that wound on nob "C" and take a save?

This is a poor choice of wording in the rulebook - a model may be "deployed" (i.e. put on the table) but "deployment" is the bit before the game starts where you put your stuff on the table or into reserve.

If you want to outflank you need to put the unit in reserve during deployment along with all your other units.

I see, I am trying to hard to make my genestealer more useful. Because every time I end up deploying first and announced to outflank with them during my deployment phase. My opponents usually put everything at the center table making outflank ineffective. So my goal was trying to double check the ruling to make sure if I'm allow to choose outflank later. haha

Thank you for the helps

That's a worthwhile use in itself - the threat of them is forcing him to cluster in the centre, this is something that you can take advantage of.

Ork players do this all the time with snikrot - a unit with two flamers isn't particularly dangerous but the fact that they can come on from the opponent's table edge has the opponent doing all sorts of crazy things.

Force your opponent to make decisions that they don't want to make and you're starting with an advantage.

New Player wrote:I see, I am trying to hard to make my genestealer more useful. Because every time I end up deploying first and announced to outflank with them during my deployment phase. My opponents usually put everything at the center table making outflank ineffective. So my goal was trying to double check the ruling to make sure if I'm allow to choose outflank later. haha

Thank you for the helps

As Chris says, this can be VERY effective. Having them castle up in the centre means your many other units have lots of targets, you're likely getting cover saves from their own units getting in the way, and so on. It can mess up their vehicle movement, and so on.

Plan your list around countering their castle, essentially!