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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 14:38:04
Subject: Lone wolves?
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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Are they worth and what do you take? would you put them in termi armor with th ss 2 fenrisian wolves?
and can they be played competitivitly?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 15:19:14
Subject: Re:Lone wolves?
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Pete Haines
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Terminator Armour, Chainfist, Stormshield, 2 Wolves. No one wants to get near that, they don't die easily, and can slowly chew their way through anything. I run three with great success.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 15:49:49
Subject: Lone wolves?
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Mark of the Wulfen.
That Is all.
35 point Suicide unit that runs straight at the Nearest unit and enjoys re-roll to Wounds against MCs and T5+ models(Like anything with a MoN, or most bikes), and a re-roll to attempt Rends on Walkers with D6+1 attacks.
He has EW, FnP, 2W, and Only gives up a KP if he survives. most KP missions sees him ignored until he charges.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 15:52:33
Subject: Lone wolves?
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Renegade Inquisitor de Marche
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Terminator armour chainfist and SS is a good build.
I like a frostblade and melta bomb myself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 16:19:37
Subject: Re:Lone wolves?
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Fixture of Dakka
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quoting myself:
Lone Wolves are much better on paper than they are in-game, doesn't mean to say they are a bad unit, they're just not a particularly good one. They're very much a niche unit; it can be worth experimenting with them and trying them out in your list, but their use fairly limited IMHO.
What they effectively are are cheaper Wolf Guard Battle Leaders, but that can't join units or have access to as much weaponry and frankly Battle Leaders aren't that good anyway.
The biggest flaw with Lone Wolves is a lack of manoeuvrability, they either steal a transport of have to foot-slog it about. Similarly, as a one-man unit they're not actually that good. FNP and Eternal Warrior is good, but when facing a mob of boys it's not going to make too much difference. Their final flaw worth mentioning is that they are located in a pretty competitive elites slot. I admit, Elites is where they belong, but Wolf Guard, Dreadnoughts and Scouts are often a preferred choice and rightly so.
Lone Wolves are however still good in assault and are great for hunting characters, as in very good for hunting characters. Similarly they are cheap and great little nuisances, forcing your opponent to decide whether it's worth directing his fire at him or to focus on bigger, more expensive units. Alongside Scouts and Land-speeders, Lone Wolves can make a great distraction and at the very least a good speed-bump/obstacle. However, I believe Scouts and Land-speeders to be better...
Anyway, I'll go over the pro's and cons and a couple of advised builds:
Pros
#- Cheap
#- Great Special Rules
#- V. Annoying in Kill Point games.
#- Deadly in assault, particularly against Characters and creatures.
#- Great distractions and not easy to kill.
#- Wide range of wargear.
Cons
#- Almost always foot-slogging = very slow and easy to avoid.
#- Easily out-numbered and/or overwhelmed by some enemy squads
#- In a competitive elites slot. Wolf Guard, Scouts, Dreadnoughts = better choice?
#- Can have a minor effect on the game.
Some Recommended Builds:
The Tank Trap: Terminator Armour, Chain Fist, Storm Shield - 85pts
Great for messing with the enemy armour. He's very tough, still cheap and can make a real mess of a tank. They are forced to avoid or destroy him. You won't see Land Raiders coming anywhere near this guy. The only real problem is that he can't actually catch up with the tanks themselves. Hence he's more of a tank trap (obstacle) than a tank-hunter.
Wolfy McInfantry Burger: MotW, 2x Fenrisian Wolves - 55pts
Very cheap and very good for ripping apart enemy infantry. At 55pts this guy will likely be ignored but if he gets into combat with any run of the mill infantry from any army, then they have a problem. Whilst being a good choice against units (unlike your average Lone Wolf) he can still give characters and elite units a headache.
However, he can't really stand up to armour or Monstrous Creatures.
Mini-Arjac: TDA, Thunder Hammer, Storm Shield - 85pts
Much like Arjac, this set-up excels against enemy characters and creatures. With a Thunder Hammer he has the strength to Instant Death many characters and the Storm Shield, Eternal Warrior and FNP should ensure he gets to strike, against whom he may be re-rolling hits and wounds.
Although he can also threaten tanks, he is still fairly expensive and struggles against infantry.
The all-rounder: Plasma Pistol, Power Weapon - 50pts
Exactly as it says on the tin, this guy is good is good against pretty much everything. Thanks to beast-slayer he shouldn't suffer from gets-hot and the power-weapon can cause problems for most targets. He is also VERY cheap.
However, he isn't particularly good at anything in particular.
As I said, Lone Wolves are quite good, but they are flawed and out-classed by other Elites choices. By all means use one, just don't expect the world or for him to do better than his counter-parts...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/21 16:33:34
Subject: Lone wolves?
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Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet
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You probably want to keep the Lone Wolf cheap, since you want it to die (in a KP game anyway). I haven't used mine in a while, but I run it with meltabombs and a powerfist generally, which comes in at a cheap 50pts. Most of the people I play love their tanks, so it's fun to throw it at a tank and earn back 4x its points in one go, and if it dies then it's no big deal.
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