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A little sketchy on the following questions that popped up, any help is as always appreciated:

Does the warlock character upgrade in a unit of Guardians count as a point in KP games?

All dedicated transports count as a point in KP games. Correct?

Can a warlock fire destructor in the opponents phase? (99% sure he cant on this one).

When a skimmer (Im thinking falcon/WS mainly here) is immobilsed it is destroyed. BRB advises to remove the base but if glued in place it simply hovers as a wreck. Can you shoot under/through the base/wreck? does TLOS apply as normal?

When allocating "wounds" on a vehicle squadron in hth does it follow the shooting guidelines? ie once the number of pens/glances have been calculated defending player assigns them to each vehicle in the unit and then opponent rolls for pens? Do mixed wargear vehicles allow you to do wound allocation tricks?

If a unit is tank shocked do they have to maintain coherency through the shock? ie can they "split" to the left and right of the vehicle?

If say two razorbaks are in a squadron and are positioned flush - nose to tail, can the one behind fire through its colleague?




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Oh one more - an immobilised walker can still pivot in the shooting phase as this dosent technically count as moving?

1) No. Upgrade character /= kp
2) Yes, anything that is a UNIT is a KP. All vehicles are units
3) No, you can only shoot in your phase. You have no permission to shoot in the opponents phase
4) TLOS as normal - as you're not told to modify TLOS you cannot
5) You allocate as for shooting
6) They have to "move", and "Moving" requires you to maintain coherency
7) You can shoot through members of your own unit as if they werent there. THat applies to vehicle squadrons as they function as normal units in that respect

No page numbers on me Im afraid, however a lot of this comes down to: if you cant find a rule saying you can do X, you cant do X

The Warlock upgrade is not an IC. He's a member of the unit and cannot act as a separate unit. That means that Warlock+guardians are worth 1 KP together.

Dedicated transports act as independent units from the units that they come with. As such, they are worth a separate KP.

You cannot fire destructor in the opponent's turn.

When a skimmer is immobilized it is NOT destroyed. You're thinking old rules. In the event that it is destroyed, TLOS still applies. So, if it's glued to the base, you're free to fire under it.

CC attacks against a vehicle squadron behave in the same way as shooting against vehicle squadrons. Mixed wargear tricks are totally meaningless in vehicle squadrons, as damage doesn't carry over.

Units have to maintain coherency.

Vehicles in a squadron ignore other vehicles for determining LOS. So, yes, you can fire through the other razorback. (I don't think Razorbacks can be purchased in squadrons, but perhaps you're playing Spearhead)


Edit: Ninja'd!

Thanks peeps!