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Situation: pyrovore T4 W2 acid blood, assulted by BA dread with talons.

Blood talons forces him to continue until all attacks have missed... if he scores 15 wounds doesn't the dread have to take 15 initive tests?

I believe it would as if a squad of hormagaunts do 10 wounds, after armor saves, to a single wound model with fnp it must take all 10 fnp checks.
   
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[Debate] there are two sides of thought on this.
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/353828.page[/debate]

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That debate is related to this? I'm not seeing the connection.
   
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what unsaved wounds means Yonush.

The debate is that he dealt 15 wounds, and all 15 must be tested, or the model has 3 wounds, so 3 wounds must be tested.

I am of the opinion that the model has 3 wounds, so you test 3 times, you did 3 wounds, everything after that doesn't matter.
   
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It is all about how to calculate unsaved wounds.

One camp says you can cause more unsaved wounds than a unit has wounds to give.
One camp says you can not cause more unsaved wounds than a unit has wounds to give.

If you interpret it the first way that leads to Acid blood working as you have laid out, but that also means Blood talons work that way as well.(aka 15 acid blood tests, but the dread gets 15 more attacks if it is Base to base with another unit).

If you interpret it the second way that leads to Acid blood test being taken only for the wounds lost from the unit, but that also means Blood talons work that way as well.(aka 2 acid blood tests, but the dread only gets 2 more attacks if it is Base to base with another unit).

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Oh. So I guess its a roll off or player/TO discission pregame then
   
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but Acid blood can't hurt a Furioso dred so why ask the question?

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Talladega, AL

Another point would be that there is nothig to continue attacking.

You do all 5 wounds to the pyrovore.
It takes 5 unsaved wounds.
Dread takes 5 acid blood strikes that do nothing to it.
Dread gets 5 more attacks.
Pyrovore is dead
Dread has nothing left to attack and therefore can not inflict furhter wounds on the previous pyrovore.

I ONLY NEED A 2 TO SAVE! .... ....
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IIRC Blood Talons state: for every wound caused immeaditly make an additional attack, these extra attacks can generate more attacks... To me, this means he keeps going until his attacks are done, then I allocate.

And Acid blood 4+ glances walkers.

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Yonush wrote:IIRC Blood Talons state: for every unsaved wound caused immeaditly make an additional attack, these extra attacks can generate more attacks... To me, this means he keeps going until his attacks are done, then I allocate.


Minor error there. And allocation has to be done before you roll to wound or otherwise what are you rolling to wound against?

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Allocation is the step before saves (Assuming you have them). Perhaps we are mixing terminology...
   
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Talladega, AL

What they said, you allocate, they take it generates more attaacks then you allocate attacks, however, at this point maybe nothing left to allocate to.

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Talladega, AL

After all attacks have been made. If he has nothing to allocate new attacks to then he has no more attacks to make and has fnished.

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