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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 13:34:26
Subject: Naacp takes good steps
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http://www.aolnews.com/2011/03/23/naacp-seeing-more-gay-diverse-chapter-leaders/
WORCESTER, Mass. -- The NAACP's newly revived Worcester chapter elected a 28-year-old openly gay black man as its president this month. In New Jersey, a branch of the organization outside Atlantic City chose a Honduran immigrant to lead it last year. And in Mississippi, the Jackson State University chapter recently turned to a 30-something white man.
Founded more than a century ago to promote black equality, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People is seeing remarkable diversity in its leadership ranks - the result of an aggressive effort over the past four or five years to boost NAACP membership and broaden the civil rights organization's agenda to confront prejudice in its many forms.
"This is the new NAACP," said Clark University political science professor Ravi Perry, the new chapter president in Worcester. "This is a human rights organization, and we have an obligation to fight discrimination at all levels."
NAACP branches have been recruiting gays, immigrants and young people who grew up in a world far removed from the landmark 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education ruling that outlawed school segregation. Now, leadership positions that were once held only by blacks are being filled by members of other racial or ethnic groups.
The group does not keep track of numbers, but in recent years NAACP chapters in New Jersey, Connecticut and Georgia have elected Hispanics as president. A white man was picked to lead the chapter in Aiken, S.C. And two years ago, NAACP members in Hamtramck, Mich., a Detroit suburb, selected a Bangladeshi American to revive their long-dormant chapter.
"Some people mentioned that it wouldn't be possible for me to be president," said Victor Diaz, 32, a Dominican American who ran against an incumbent and was elected president of the Waterbury, Conn., branch in November. "But when I ran, I won 3 to 1."
The push for diversity troubles some members of the NAACP's old guard, who worry that problems in the black community may get short shrift. But some social scientists say the new diversity is merely a return to the group's roots as a biracial organization.
In 1964, the NAACP's membership peaked at 625,000 paid members. By the middle of the past decade, that had dropped to just under 300,000. Now it has reversed course and climbed to more than 525,000, in large part because of an increase in young members, group officials say. The NAACP said it does not keep track of the organization's racial and ethnic breakdown.
Stefanie Brown, the NAACP's 30-year-old national field director, said the under-25 crowd is the organization's fastest-growing age group. In fact, the NAACP has slots on its 60-plus member board of directors reserved for people under 25. In addition, Brown said, young professionals under 40 are taking leadership roles - something that hadn't happened until recently.
Some in the group say the diversity push weakens the NAACP's identity. Jamarhl Crawford, editor of the Blackstonian, a Boston website that covers the city's black population, said he fears it could "water down" the focus on problems in the black community.
"I think there's going to be some loss there in terms of actual activism, actual protest" on behalf of blacks, said Crawford, a 40-year-old member of the NAACP's Boston branch.
The diversity push was started a few years ago under then-NAACP chairman Julian Bond. Later, Benjamin Todd Jealous, who in 2008 became the group's youngest leader at age 35, ramped up the effort and also urged the organization to take up gay rights.
"At our core, we want to end discrimination and have equality for all people," Brown said.
In a reflection of how it has broadened its agenda, the NAACP came out against California's Proposition 8, the ballot measure banning gay marriage. Last year, it spoke out against Arizona's anti-immigration law. It also strongly supported the federal DREAM Act, a proposal to give illegal immigrant students a pathway to citizenship through college or military service.
Perry, the openly gay chapter president, said: "I'm just one example of younger individuals who find a home in the NAACP for issues that they might represent."
Patricia Sullivan, a history professor at the University of South Carolina and author of "Lift Every Voice: The NAACP and the Making of the Civil Rights Movement," called the new push for diversity thrilling and said: "It's really reflecting what the NAACP has represented historically and what its vision has been."
Founded in 1909 partly in response to race riots in Springfield, Ill., NAACP begin as a coalition of black and Jewish activists with whites serving in leadership position in many chapters, and it was only later that it became a predominantly black organization. Sullivan also noted that the NAACP spoke out against the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II.
Tatcho Mindiola, director of the Center for Mexican American Studies at the University of Houston, said that while some Hispanics were NAACP members during the civil right years, their election to leadership roles is a new phenomenon. Mindiola said the NAACP has won over some Hispanics because of recent positions it has taken on issues important to Latinos.
"The group has shown it is fighting for civil rights for all minorities," said David Alcantara, 52, president of the Pleasantville-Mainland chapter in New Jersey. "And it's time that all minorities support the NAACP."
Some changes are good.
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And whilst you're pointing and shouting at the boogeyman in the corner, you're missing the burglar coming in through the window.
Well, Duh! Because they had a giant Mining ship. If you had a giant mining ship you would drill holes in everything too, before you'd destory it with a black hole |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 13:49:05
Subject: Re:Naacp takes good steps
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I think the idea of the NAACP is good, just like unions , the ideas are good. But at least where I live the practice of them is not. All the NAACP does around here, is basically insult white people, insult local business, and then force other businesses to hire a certain amount of black to white ratio other wise they will make their lives a living hell at said business. I dont think the latter is a good idea at all. Forcing a company to hire black folks just because they are black? What about their qualifications? What about their back ground? I dont mind it if the guy works as hard as everyone else, but I remember I worked in a shop some years ago that was pressured into doing just that. They all were paid $1.50 more an hour then the rest of us, and Im not kidding, 2 of them were out on "workmens comp" from back injuries and 2 others would always talk about getting workmens comp for back injuries too. The last guy was a registered sex offender. It was very irritating.
Now I know that sounds like Im generalizing those 5 black men for every person that isnt white, and truly Im not, Im just saying thats my personal experience with the NAACP in this area anyways.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 15:59:55
Subject: Naacp takes good steps
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Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
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I liked it when our local NAACP spoke out against the Justice Department's decision that the city had to lower their standards for police & firefighters because not enough minority applicants got a high enough score.
Something to the extent of "what the hell do you think you're doing? We need more qualified applicants, not more unqualified police officers."
This tho...blatent politics. The NAACP is and should be about advancing the interests of "Colored People." If you want to advance the rights of gays, form a NAAGP.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 17:56:51
Subject: Naacp takes good steps
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If it makes crap happen, woot. FWIW an old black dude at work tried to tell me that being bi was "sick" yesterday. I wasn't talking to him or going on about it, it just came up in conversation with a girl and he happened to overhear. He went on about how it was fine as long as I didn't talk about it (which he equated to trying to flaunt it or hitting on people who were unwilling). The problem is at this point a manager could side with him (don't think they would, but not going to take the gamble) and that really sucks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 18:32:38
Subject: Naacp takes good steps
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Most blacks vote Democrat but think more like Bible belt Christians. It's why the term "Down low" meaning a gay man pretending to be straight got it's start. It's one of the sad truths of the day.
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And whilst you're pointing and shouting at the boogeyman in the corner, you're missing the burglar coming in through the window.
Well, Duh! Because they had a giant Mining ship. If you had a giant mining ship you would drill holes in everything too, before you'd destory it with a black hole |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 18:38:28
Subject: Naacp takes good steps
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Traditionally black churches are deeply socially conservative. Give a quiz of social issues to an Irish Catholic church in the suburbs, and an inner city baptist church, and prepare to be shocked at the results.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 18:47:34
Subject: Naacp takes good steps
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
Georgia,just outside Atlanta
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Polonius wrote:Traditionally black churches are deeply socially conservative. Give a quiz of social issues to an Irish Catholic church in the suburbs, and an inner city baptist church, and prepare to be shocked at the results.
It's one of the things that his often amazed me when discussing politics with my Missus Family and friends..the moment homosexual relationships ( right to marry,etc) come up,there is an instant shift in attitude...going from one of open mindedness and a desire for "fair play" to one of great intolerance...
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"I'll tell you one thing that every good soldier knows! The only thing that counts in the end is power! Naked merciless force!" .-Ursus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 18:56:47
Subject: Naacp takes good steps
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You have to understand The bible was all Blacks had for hundreds of years. Until the past few years The church has had a firm stranglehold over the community. I could send you some links that would blow your mind.
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And whilst you're pointing and shouting at the boogeyman in the corner, you're missing the burglar coming in through the window.
Well, Duh! Because they had a giant Mining ship. If you had a giant mining ship you would drill holes in everything too, before you'd destory it with a black hole |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 18:57:56
Subject: Naacp takes good steps
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Wow that sounds crazy - your post I mean.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 18:58:17
Subject: Naacp takes good steps
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It's part of the great divide in America: there are far more registered Democrats than registered Republicans, but there are far more conservatives than liberals. In terms of religion, the biggest gulf in christian denominations is no longer between Catholic and Protestant. It's between mainline protestantism and evenagelical christinaity. A Lutheran would probably feel more at home at a catholic mass than at a mega-church.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 19:00:34
Subject: Naacp takes good steps
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Fixture of Dakka
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This is the part where say that it's no crazier than some of the stuff that's actually IN the bible.
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I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 19:02:47
Subject: Naacp takes good steps
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Albatross wrote:This is the part where say that it's no crazier than some of the stuff that's actually IN the bible.
But according to you Haggislander the Bible is just a myth anyway.
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 19:05:20
Subject: Naacp takes good steps
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
Georgia,just outside Atlanta
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Polonius wrote:It's part of the great divide in America: there are far more registered Democrats than registered Republicans, but there are far more conservatives than liberals.
In terms of religion, the biggest gulf in christian denominations is no longer between Catholic and Protestant. It's between mainline protestantism and evenagelical christinaity. A Lutheran would probably feel more at home at a catholic mass than at a mega-church.
And, though admitedly based on personal experiance , it appears most (not all) of the Black community attends some variation of " Mega Church.".
Again,basing this on personal experiance..
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"I'll tell you one thing that every good soldier knows! The only thing that counts in the end is power! Naked merciless force!" .-Ursus.
 I am Red/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 19:06:44
Subject: Naacp takes good steps
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Charistmatic and evangelical churches are popular in the black community, although mega churchs are a subtype of those.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 19:12:11
Subject: Naacp takes good steps
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That article is interesting.
Part of my history course covers the NAACP's early years so it reasonably relevant
(actually so is this politics discussion going on too.)
Interesting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 19:18:36
Subject: Naacp takes good steps
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
Georgia,just outside Atlanta
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Polonius wrote:Charistmatic and evangelical churches are popular in the black community, although mega churchs are a subtype of those.
My one (and only) time attending one was at the invitation of my Missus Mother ( My side of the Family is Catholic...and I'm pretty much a non beliver..but felt I'd accept her invite).
Overall...not a huge fan of the whole sermon..lots of yelling and people " getting the spirit" and rushing about and thrashing on the floor...lots of " Laying on of hands" to cast out deamons and such...
The thing is...99 % of the thousands (yes thousands) there were Black...I've since gone to quite a few Family functions at which many many members of this church have attended..and in every case...across the board the political views lean in the same way...very progressive and open minded in most areas...very intolerant concerning homosexuals.
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"I'll tell you one thing that every good soldier knows! The only thing that counts in the end is power! Naked merciless force!" .-Ursus.
 I am Red/Black Take The Magic Dual Colour Test - Beta today! <small>Created with Rum and Monkey's Personality Test Generator.</small>I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 19:39:17
Subject: Naacp takes good steps
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Fixture of Dakka
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I'm well-schooled in the down-low. For a skinny white boy you'd think I was a booty-licious black chick with some of the stories I have. That's completely an aside, however. With how unbalanced things are, I'd like to see something huge and extreme on the gay side. Maybe after all the fall out everyone can realize they should stop being morons and just get along.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/03/23 19:50:22
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You should hear some of the chicks that date men in jail. Their man is always innocent and never gets "loved" in jail. Then they show a pic of him with a long jerry curl hugged up with a bunch of dudes.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2011/03/23 19:55:26
And whilst you're pointing and shouting at the boogeyman in the corner, you're missing the burglar coming in through the window.
Well, Duh! Because they had a giant Mining ship. If you had a giant mining ship you would drill holes in everything too, before you'd destory it with a black hole |
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