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Link to Reuters Story

No one claimed responsibility for the blast, which coincided with an upsurge of violence on the Gaza border that has led to fears of a new war between Israel and the Islamist group Hamas, which governs the Gaza Strip, after months of relative quiet.

Medics said three people were seriously hurt by the explosion, which hit one of the main routes into central Jerusalem in the afternoon, shattering the windows of a nearby bus. A woman in her 60s died in hospital.

Police said it was a "terrorist attack" -- Israel's term for a Palestinian strike. It was the first time Jerusalem had been hit by such a bomb since 2004.

Absurdly stupid Political Correctness on display at Reuters.

edit: Here's the link to Reuters Canada, which also carried the story, in case the original is taking forever to load.

Political correctness?

I'd say that's precisely the opposite of political correctness. By directly referencing Palestine the sentence can be interpreted as either unjustly implicating Palestinians in the absence of evidence, or expressing hostility to Israel by questioning the terrorist nature of the attack.

This follows on the murder of the Jewish family earlier this year, rocket attacks deep into Isreal from Gaza and Israeli retaliation. Don't they know that thats so 2010? Now we have revolutions, earthquakes, radiation leaks, and potential meltdown of the Euro (again)?

I wonder how many people Netanyahu will murder in 'retaliation' when he calls in the bombers or artillery in on Gaza.

I doubt he'll murder anyone. Lots of cameras about.

You know what I mean.

The artillery barrages into Gaza might be roughly aimed at a Hamas member or two but more often that not just flatten a few hundred square yards of densely populated space. Its about as indiscrimiate than the terrorism Hamas proports, and thus is terrorism itself.

Orlanth wrote:You know what I mean.

The artillery barrages into Gaza might be roughly aimed at a Hamas member or two but more often that not just flatten a few hundred square yards of densely populated space. Its about as indiscrimiate than the terrorism Hamas proports, and thus is terrorism itself.

1. I don't care. Syria is the new Black.
2. As indscriminate as random rocket attacks or targeting bus bombing or killing a Jewish family with a gun and a knife in their own home?
3. See #1 above. The Israeli/palestinian conflict is strcitly page 3. they'll have to do better than that to get to Page 1 again.

Sigh... two groups of people I'm just sick of hearing about. Pull out our support for both and wall off the area, I say.

Frazzled wrote:

Orlanth wrote:You know what I mean.

The artillery barrages into Gaza might be roughly aimed at a Hamas member or two but more often that not just flatten a few hundred square yards of densely populated space. Its about as indiscrimiate than the terrorism Hamas proports, and thus is terrorism itself.

1. I don't care. Syria is the new Black.
2. As indscriminate as random rocket attacks or targeting bus bombing or killing a Jewish family with a gun and a knife in their own home?
3. See #1 above. The Israeli/palestinian conflict is strcitly page 3. they'll have to do better than that to get to Page 1 again.

Still classy, eh Fraz?

I wonder if biccat will post any stories of the Israeli violence. Given that around ten times as many Palestinians die at the hands of Israeli violence, we should see a lot of stories in the next few months.

It couldn't possibly be the case that he only cares about people on one side of the fence. Surely not.

Frazzled wrote:This follows on the murder of the Jewish family earlier this year, rocket attacks deep into Isreal from Gaza and Israeli retaliation. Don't they know that thats so 2010? Now we have revolutions, earthquakes, radiation leaks, and potential meltdown of the Euro (again)?

Which is following a poorly targeted Isreali air strike in palestinian territory that is believed to have killed several families including multiple children. Just sayin'.


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Orlanth wrote:You know what I mean.

The artillery barrages into Gaza might be roughly aimed at a Hamas member or two but more often that not just flatten a few hundred square yards of densely populated space. Its about as indiscrimiate than the terrorism Hamas proports, and thus is terrorism itself.

1. I don't care. Syria is the new Black.
2. As indscriminate as random rocket attacks or targeting bus bombing or killing a Jewish family with a gun and a knife in their own home?
3. See #1 above. The Israeli/palestinian conflict is strcitly page 3. they'll have to do better than that to get to Page 1 again.

Look everyone, I'm frazzled "Condemn palestinian violence, ignore israeli violence" "make unrelated joke when someone calls me on it" "lock thread and ban shuma".

Y'know, the first thing I thought when I saw this on the BBC was 'I bet there'll be a thread about this on Dakka and I'll get to mention the airstrikes on Palestinian territory a few days ago, in which more people were killed...'


Shuma beat me to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=249JaIaubVw

Reminds me of this from a few years back. Galloway is a bit of a blowhard but he sadly makes some good points, at the very least he wears his bias on his sleeve unlike sky which from my understanding is the fox news of the UK. Let's face it, Hamas doesn't exactly have what western powers would consider a military. It's the old story of controlling terminology, mines become the scarier sounding IEDs and so on.

Who's to say the old lady wasn't the target of the Palestinian military/intelligence services and everyone else was just "collateral damage". Obviously I’m being facetious (gaza doesn’t exactly have the resources to have either) but my point is even when the “terrorists/freedom fighters/islamofascists/violentdouchbags” or whatever you want to call them attack military targets like the bombing of U.S.S. Cole there’s a tendency for the media to refer to it as a terrorist act, which I find odd if their goal is to be unbiased.

Again, it’s up for debate whether it’s possible for a journalist to be completely unbiased without having any real perspective at all. If you keep it short and sweet and to the facts it doesn’t generate hits or sell papers, it’s also a little bland. With that said, Reuters is obviously trying to remain as unbiased as they can. I don’t really see what’s wrong with that. People will always want a simple narrative and a black and white situation that's easier to comprehend than the extremely complex reality.

Crablezworth wrote:Again, it’s up for debate whether it’s possible for a journalist to be completely unbiased without having any real perspective at all.

It's impossible to be unbiased. When you report on a murder and imply that it was a bad thing, you're demonstrating a bias against murder. Even if you report the murder as a neutral event, you demonstrate bias merely by placing the event as more newsworthy than a cat getting stuck up a tree.

The point is not to remove bias, but to understand it and endeavour to give as full and as accurate as possible a telling of the events.



Or if you're of anoter persuasion, to realise "bias" is the best get of jail free card in the world. That whenever the anything gets reported that might cause you to challenge your preconceived notions you just yell "bias" and going on believing whatever nonsense you want to.

I'm telling you it's time for thunderdome. Two go in one come out! I am master, he is blaster!

sebster wrote:

Crablezworth wrote:Again, it’s up for debate whether it’s possible for a journalist to be completely unbiased without having any real perspective at all.

It's impossible to be unbiased. When you report on a murder and imply that it was a bad thing, you're demonstrating a bias against murder. Even if you report the murder as a neutral event, you demonstrate bias merely by placing the event as more newsworthy than a cat getting stuck up a tree.

The point is not to remove bias, but to understand it and endeavour to give as full and as accurate as possible a telling of the events.



Or if you're of anoter persuasion, to realise "bias" is the best get of jail free card in the world. That whenever the anything gets reported that might cause you to challenge your preconceived notions you just yell "bias" and going on believing whatever nonsense you want to.

Pot calling the kettle black?

sebster wrote:I wonder if biccat will post any stories of the Israeli violence. Given that around ten times as many Palestinians die at the hands of Israeli violence, we should see a lot of stories in the next few months.

It couldn't possibly be the case that he only cares about people on one side of the fence. Surely not.

Actually I posted the story for the bolded section. Also, I'm pretty sure this is the only post on the Israel-TerroristsPalestine conflict I've ever started.

Israel to deploy the....IRON...BUTT! er Iron Shield*

*Spongebob agrees it would be way cooler if it were named Iron Butt though.

http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=213741

A girl, who was at my high school and currently lives in Israel, posted this on facebook yesterday...

NEWS FLASH: Family in central London massacred in their sleep. Bomb hits bus 113 outside kings cross station, injuring dozens and killing at least one; 50 rockets and missiles have fallen in liverpool over the last 24 hours Do I have your attention? Is this completely insane and far fetched? Then why is it allowed to be commonplace in Israel??

The best part is 'allowed', as if the international community needs to help Israel more... *sigh*

She's got a point - we have no idea what it's like to deal with separatist terrorism within our borders..

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...we do. Yes, people were interned without trial when perhaps they shouldn't have been, yes the British Army was occasionally a little heavy-handed - what we didn't do is fething airstrike our own citizens.

That is true. You did machine gun them though (or are you not counting Ireland and India?)

Of course, neither did Israel.



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Albatross wrote:She's got a point - we have no idea what it's like to deal with separatist terrorism within our borders..

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...we do. Yes, people were interned without trial when perhaps they shouldn't have been, yes the British Army was occasionally a little heavy-handed - what we didn't do is fething airstrike our own citizens.

You know, you guys really need to get a broom or something, you've really let the place go judging by those pics.

See those top pics? People died in that blast, you fething arsehole.

I'm not going to dignify the rest of it with a response, suffice to say you've finally made me do it:

I'm flipping you to ignore, you waste of space.


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Gah! Looks like it won't let me - guess I'll just have to ignore your unfunny, inane ramblings manually.

Medium of Death wrote:The best part is 'allowed', as if the international community needs to help Israel more... *sigh*

I'd be impressed if people commiserated with the terrorists less.

If Palestinians didn't celebrate in the streets when something hideous happens I'm sure people would be more sympathetic. The violence perpetrated by Palestinian Terrorists is so counter-productive. They claim that they commit these acts due to Israeli aggression but the only thing they accomplish by committing their terrorist acts is encouraging more airstrikes and further Israeli settlement in Gaza which then triggers more terrorism.

Gah.

Monster Rain wrote:

Medium of Death wrote:The best part is 'allowed', as if the international community needs to help Israel more... *sigh*

I'd be impressed if people commiserated with the terrorists less.

Who's commiserating with them? I commiserate with the Palestinian people - they've been treated pretty terribly by all parties.

Frazzled wrote:That is true. You did machine gun them though (or are you not counting Ireland and India?)

Of course, neither did Israel.



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Albatross wrote:She's got a point - we have no idea what it's like to deal with separatist terrorism within our borders..

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...we do. Yes, people were interned without trial when perhaps they shouldn't have been, yes the British Army was occasionally a little heavy-handed - what we didn't do is fething airstrike our own citizens.

You know, you guys really need to get a broom or something, you've really let the place go judging by those pics.

I'm sensing a few boos from the popcorn gallery. Its your fault. You posted the pics and brought the whole thing up, then expected someone to know what they were. I still don't know what they are. Now I don't care. See what you did Alby, you turned me mean. I was such a gentle peace loving person and now see what you turned me into?

... errmm...



.. I think w'd best close this here.

.. oh christ..