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HEy everybody, no before we begin the reason I put most efficient is because if I were to put best it would cause a ton of havoc. Anyway so for the grey knights they have different play styles I.E. Purifiers, footslog razorspam, first turn shunt list. So I want to know what is the most efficient way to run gray knights in a competitive list build?

The big thing is what do you want your army to do?

There are lots of options available, and most would include some form of mechanized element unless you want a wing-esque army of terminators.

What do you typically play?

Well I my play varies from mech vet guard to DoA marines. I have am looking for a pretty good list, and how you would run it. I think putting in rhinos would be helpful for the grey knights to last longer. I was thinking mordrak and ghost termies.

What point level are you talking? Most GK HQ choices don't become reasonable until you get to higher points. At 1500 and lower you have to go with bargain HQs to still have the rest of your army.

Rhinos are certainly good, but so aren't boosted HB razorbacks, or boosted assault cannon razor backs.

If you go with purgitation squads, having the use their can't see you but still can shoot you ability from behind a razor or rhino wall. Its pretty fun to be able shoot all that S7 at the enemy with little fear of reprisal.

Well the usual points we play is 1,750 points so that is why mordrak seems good. I was thinking which one I should choose although the boosted assault cannon razorbacks are quite expensive for av11

let me put it this way,

there isn't a bad way to play GKs.



in my mind, the level of cheezyness goes like this.

1) Coteaz Henchmen spam in Chimeras. this is the cheezy build. Coteaz, 6 henchmen squads in Chimeras(various loadouts), add other stuff to desire(Psyflemen dreds?)

2) Purifier list. Crowe, 6 squads of Purifiers in Rhinos or Razorbacks, Psyflemen dreds, plossably a couple of Interceptor or Palidin Squads.

3) Draigo list. Draigo, 2-3 squads of Palidins, fully diversified with an Apothecary, 2-3 Landraiders for the Palidins to ride in. possably a Interceptor squad or 2 for a vanguard force.

4) Terminator spam list. GKGM(or 2), all terminators as troops, possably some LRs for them to ride in or, if no LRs, Psyflemen for some long range transport popping.


these seem to be the builds that come to mind when looking at the codex off hand. a Better feel will come as we actually get to play with the codex.

The only part i hate about the purifier list is crowe....grrr why is he so bad!! I am not sure which build I will run, it seems a little bland

Why do people think he's bad


sure he gives enemies bonuses when they charge him and isn't an IC, but he's dirt cheap.

150 points to run purifiers as troops and get a HQ who isn't too shabby in CC doesn't seem like a problem to me.


Whats the big deal?

Grey Templar wrote:Why do people think he's bad


sure he gives enemies bonuses when they charge him and isn't an IC, but he's dirt cheap.

150 points to run purifiers as troops and get a HQ who isn't too shabby in CC doesn't seem like a problem to me.


Whats the big deal?

This. The more I playtest him the more I like him.

Really, is your opponent going to dedicate all that much firepower towards one model on foot?

And if they do, they better bring plasma to get around his 2+ save (saving your other squads from that same plasma), or lots of shots, meaning they're dedicating lots of shooting to one model.

Then, once he gets in CC, just turtle up with your 2+/4++ re-rollable save, and let Cleansing Flame do the work.

I guess he is cheap, but uses up a HQ spot, he is okay in combat, helping the enemy in combat is plain dumb. How would you configure a crowe list and run it well. I mean razorspam is okay, but I run that with my blood angels so is there another way to run the purifiers.

Well, the simple solution is to make sure he's the one doing the charging.


if the enemy don't charge, they get no benifit. they also have to have charged him specifically(IE: made BtB)

if he is on the fringe of a multicombat and someone charges the other side, they get no benifit unless they hit him in combat.

I am wondering what GW was thinking when they decided he should not be an IC. Like I said before how do you run about a list, im also trying to see how to put in the psykic hood with the librarian.

Grey Templar wrote:Why do people think he's bad


sure he gives enemies bonuses when they charge him and isn't an IC, but he's dirt cheap.

150 points to run purifiers as troops and get a HQ who isn't too shabby in CC doesn't seem like a problem to me.


Whats the big deal?

Crowe is worth every single bit of his 150 points, the problem with Crowe isn't Crowe.

Grandmasters, Librarians, and Brotherhood Champions are such good force multipliers, and Crowe takes a HQ slot.

Competition for HQ slots in a GK is more competitive than the competition for elites slots in a Tyranid army.

In my mind, taking one less Grandmaster is well worth running Purifiers as troops(perhaps the most awsome Troops choice in the game)

i can always take 1 Grandmaster.

Agreed I want to take a librarian, but also a grandmaster. If only crowe was a grandmaster -sigh- I need to stop dreaming. I am going to try him out today; so lets see what happens.

So i tried him out, he was mehh not much. I had played two games one a tie the other was a win (ironically i left him in the corner and got the win )