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(originally from the GK FAQ submission thread, pg 3)

the astral aim psychic power. page 54 (i think)

It says that you may not target someone in a vehicle, but if you are in a vehicle can you use this power to shoot without needing fire points?

Redemption stated:

Redemption wrote:Rule part: You still require fire points. Astral Aim only removes the requirement for line of sight, not the requirement for a fire point (pg 66), which is a completely different rule than the Line of Sight rule. It's like firing a Barrage weapon from a vehicle.
Fluff part: They don't magicially shoot through things, they bend the projectile's path around things. Basically they're like the movie Wanted.

i agree that you would normally need a fire point to shoot but the exceptions is this; models in transports still count as being on the battlefeild but can't shoot or be shot at due to line of sight being blocked by he transport. however the astral aim power lets you fire without needing line of sight.

In order to fire from a vehicle you need a firepoint OR you need to be open topped

LOS is entirely irrelevant to this - so no, you CANNOT fire using astral aim if youre in a vehicle with no firepoints.

nosferatu1001 wrote:In order to fire from a vehicle you need a firepoint OR you need to be open topped

LOS is entirely irrelevant to this - so no, you CANNOT fire using astral aim if youre in a vehicle with no firepoints.

Addendum: nor with more models than available fire points.

Assuming the one vote is from Hellstorm himself, I think this is pretty cut and dry.

no firepoints = no firing.

It has nothing to do with LoS. Astral aim allows you to fire without LoS, but you can't t fire so no firing with astral aim anymore than firing from reserve, with weapons you don't have or once you've died, or into or outfrom assault or all the other incidences when you can't fire!

Put it this way, a mortar can be fired from within a vehicle and does not need LOS. Does it need a fire point?

don_mondo wrote:Put it this way, a mortar can be fired from within a vehicle and does not need LOS. Does it need a fire point?

NO!! Fire Away!!


stupid umies

Put it this way, a mortar can be fired from within a vehicle and does not need LOS. Does it need a fire point?

yes it needs a fire point.