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So many ages ago when I started up my Daemon Army, I thought it would be a great idea to get some Daemon Hunters. So Now with the new grey knights codex that came out, I decided to dust off their box and see what I can do with them. Of course I need to get some of my background fluff right before I go crazy.

To start with I have a huge Space Wolves army. A 13th Company army to be exact. And I love every bit of them. Since I was looking at playing a bit of Daemon Hunters, I was trying to intertwine the two forces, seeing as how they have the same vehicles to save me money and the fact that I just have always loved the marines killing daemons thing, why not have some grey hunter on grey knight daemon killing action? From a table top perspective it would look like grey knight models with space wolves vehicle support mostly.

So basic fluff questions I really jsut dont know about:

1- Would the ordo malleus even tolerate the existence of the 13th company or just go to every extent to wipe them from the face of the galaxy? They have been in the depths of the warp for a long time, I havent been in a grey knight mindset before so I dont know if its even a feasible option to start with.

2. Assuming that the ordo malleus wouldnt try to kill them all, would they be open to having detachments of grey knights working with the wolves? They are pretty good at killing off daemons after all, the grey knights have to like that.

3. Could some space wolves some how in some way be inducted in the ordo malleus? There are many psykers in the 13th co and they are very resistant to the taint of chaos. Could they some how become part of the grey knights?

4. If somehow there were grey knights rolling with the wolves (ie 2 or 3 can be orchestrated), could they have a smattering of wolf bling like talismens, runes or wolfy backpacks?

5. And lastly, seeing as how this is the 13th company, and the grey knights are uncorruptable, could they somehow have/use chaos gear, like a power sword or backpack? Assuming that all obvious chaos emblems are thoroughly removed of course.


I really would like to incorporate the grey knights and my wolves together, from both what I would like to see in a story of the knights hooking up with the 13th Co to kill daemons as well as a way to not have to buy *another* marine army and transport cases for them. So give me all the reasons why this all could and could not work. If you see something that is questionable, at least come up with a creative way to work it or a definitive reason why it cant.

Thank you all in advance!

1.) As long as they didn't show any kind of corruption, I doubt they would be purged. The Inquisition will make any regular Imperial citizen who comes into contact with Daemons "disappear" but Space Marines are exempt from this rule, in part because they're trustworthy but mostly because they would provoke a devastating war with the Astartes trying to crack down on them.

2.) If they were especially good at Daemon-slaying, sure.

3.) I sincerely doubt the Space Wovles would allow themselves to become an Ordo Militant of the Inquisition, they're fiercely independent and ever since the First War of Armageddon they have a strong grudge against the Imperial government.

4.) Perhaps if these Grey Knights had proven themselves honorable to the Space Wolves and had fought many battles together with them.

5.) Wouldn't be tolerated in the Inquisition, only the most radical Inquisitors would ever contemplate such a thing.

1-Probably not but the 13th wouldn't give them a chance to try it out.
2-The 13th don't like to work 'with' anyone barring their own brothers and even then they try to avoid them. It is possible but kinda unlikely.
3-Unlikely... the 13thare on amission from their primarch and will noy abandon it for anyone. They do have psykers who have learnt to adapt to 'life' in the warp.
4-GK very much like their shiny armour... they might have tokens of trust etc so it could happen.
5-the 13th already use chaos armour/weapons as replacements for their own but they are probably cleansed first. Daemon weapons would be a different matter...

1. Inquisitional forces usually don't bother to ask questions, they will destroy if they feel it is necessary, although if the 13th were to miraculously re-appear from the warp, I don't think the Ordo Malleus would be the first to them.

2. The Grey Knights don't 'work' with anyone. They are dispatched as needed by far higher authorities then Space Marines. Read the Space Wolf book and you'll see how Grey Knights interact with other chapters... they don't. Once the job is done, they leave, or kill whomever bore witness to the devastation.

3. Grey Knights are the purest of psykers in the Imperium, and it's doubtful they'd ever want to take a chance getting one of the 13th Company, they don't hire from other ranks, they hire fresh and train.

4. Not going to happen, so no.

5. As was stated, 13th Company book had them raiding Chaos Marines for gear as they obviously don't have an attache running back and forth to the Imperium for them. In all honesty, the 13th Company are probably all wiped out, hence their company stone... but who knows?

The 13th company are stilla ctive in the EoT.
The stone is there because the official story is they were lost. The real story is Leman Russ sent them after the TSons and they can only come back once they have hunted them all down.

shimraa wrote:3. Could some space wolves some how in some way be inducted in the ordo malleus? There are many psykers in the 13th co and they are very resistant to the taint of chaos. Could they some how become part of the grey knights?

If you are already a space marine you become another marine. he would always be a space wolf in grey knight armour (this is due to them not sharing geneseed).

For grey knights everything is about purity, i would really doubt they would like the whole canis gene thing.

Matt1785 wrote:5. As was stated, 13th Company book had them raiding Chaos Marines for gear as they obviously don't have an attache running back and forth to the Imperium for them. In all honesty, the 13th Company are probably all wiped out, hence their company stone... but who knows?

The 13th company was (is, seeing as it is still going on) active during the 13th black crusade, The have lasted over 10,000 years in the warp (real time not warp time) i think they can survive a few more years.

purplefood wrote:
5-the 13th already use chaos armour/weapons as replacements for their own but they are probably cleansed first. Daemon weapons would be a different matter...

Matt1785 wrote:
5. As was stated, 13th Company book had them raiding Chaos Marines for gear as they obviously don't have an attache running back and forth to the Imperium for them. In all honesty, the 13th Company are probably all wiped out, hence their company stone... but who knows?

So I guess i didnt make that clear enough. The 13th company uses CSM gear, it happens from being in the warp forever. But if some how some way, the grey knights were with or a part of the 13th company, could they somehow be using the CSM gear as well? I think its one hell of a jump fluff wise. Even more so since it would appear that any notions of the grey knights and 13th co getting along would be questionable, let alone full cooperation.


Take this scenario for example and tell me if its feasible:

During the EoT campaign, the 13 Co appears from the warp, killing CSM and deamons with all the fury you would expect. Rumor gets out they are around. Even though the Wolves chapter claims officially they didn't, the inquisition has to investigate. So they start to look around this war zone and find themselves the 13Co. As they do this, they either A) decide to assist the 13Co killing some daemons and CSM B) decide that the 13 Co must be cleansed and annihilated. But as the grey knights land to join the fray, the warp opens up to allow the CSM/daemons to run and in so doing, pulls the grey knights and wolves into the warp. The wolves continue in their endless pursuit of the CSM and the grey knights have no choice but to follow and help the wolves kill some CSM/daemons or be lost into the warp by themselves.

This then lets the grey knights feasibly be working with and using wolfy gear and vehicles. It allows a way for the knights and wolves to have to work together. Allows a time for the knights to prove themselves worthy of a few pieces of honorary wolf gear. And by stretching it, since they are also in the warp with the 13Co, they may have to loot some CSM to replace broken wargear. Thoughts?

The GK wouldn't stay with the 13th company...
They could probably find their way out of the warp since they are all psykers.
Then again... it could happen. Though the GK wouldn't replace their armour since the Aegis suits are very precious to them.