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Just wanted to remake the old water list into something similar...I know there are better ways to make a list...I just liked the idea of remaking it.

HQ
~Ordo Malleus Inquisitor
-Daemonblade
-Power Armor

~Ordo Malleus Inquisitor
-Daemonblade
-Power Armor
-Servo Skull

ELITE
~Henchmen (10)
-Jokaero Weaponsmith
-Warrior Acolyte (9)
---Hot Shot Las (1)
---Plasma Gun (2)
---Melta Gun (1)
---Melta Bombs (2)
-Chimera
---Extra Armor

~Henchmen (10)
-Jokaero Weaponsmith
-Warrior Acolyte (9)
---Hot Shot Las (3)
---Melta Gun (3)
---Melta Bombs (2)
-Chimera
---Extra Armor

TROOP
~Strike Squad (10)
-Incinerator
-NFHalberd (4)
-NDHammer (2)


~Strike Squad (10)
-Incinerator
-NFHalberd (4)
-NDHammer (2)

~Terminators (5)
-NFHalberd (4)
-NDHammer (1)


HEAVY
~Land Raider
-Searchlight
-Multi Melta

~Land Raider
-Multi Melta

~Land Raider
-Multi Melta

This list is illegal, one henchmen squad per inquisitor. Re-write it and I'll critique as best I can!

I have seen nothing that says you cannot take a henchmen squad without an inquisitor. Only that taking an inquisitor lets you take a henchman squad that does not take up a force org slot.

'For each Inquisitor in your army, you may include 1 unit of 3-12 Henchmen, chosen in any combination from those shown. This unit does not use up a force organisation slot.'

Sorry buddy, looking at the codex now. 1 per inquisitor.

Re-write and I'll have a look.

It's "may also include".

Nothing in the book says anything about can only take them if you take an inquisitor.

For EACH inquisitor in your army, you may also include A unit of 3-12 Henchmen...

Yeah...you can.

You can also take them outside that.

I don't see where your argument is.

Please go on.

Taking my argument in a completely different direction, why does Coteaz's special rule say 'no longer limited by the number of inquisitors in your army'.

It's just the way it's worded.

For EACH (each implies 1) inquisitor in your army, you may include A (A implies 1, otherwise it would say 'you may include units of 3-12...)

It's RAW, the ratio is 1:1.

You develop your argument now, I'm intrigued by your thought process...


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Ah never mind, I've realised completely what you mean.

I apologise profusely, and you can be safe in the knowledge I look like a prick internet wide...

Too many henchmen, your list is illegal.

This is also about as "hard" as water. Perhaps next time give more thought to capturing your own objectives.

Now that is actually a good point. I was looking for a place that said you could only take henchmen if you had inquisitors. There is no implication anywhere else. I hadn't thought to look in Coteaz's rule for an implication. While it is only an implication I would have to say that the original intent is to take Henchmen warbands per Inquisitor though RAW (which is annoying) you can take them without one.

ph34r-I am already on top of this. The idea was not to make a great list....but to remake the water list.

You agree with me then duct?

WTH is a 'water list'? Please explain...!

Indeed Dawn.

Sweet re-write we'll take a look?


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Also could you take a look at my 1500pt list duct? Its about half way down the page now, called Grey Knight 1500, please take a look!

Rewritten.

You know my thoughts on Ordo Malleus anyway duct!

To each their own...and it keeps the old water style tone.

This is not a water list. Crusaders do not fit into the "Water" style of play.

Believe me, I know what being the "Water Warrior" is all about.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Deadshane1%27s_Grey_Knights_%2709

Undefeated at adepticon '09 using Water tactics.

Sorry...fixed it up a bit...to follow the old water warrior tactics...though now things have changed quite a bit and new water warrior tactics are quite different.

Please can someone explain what "water tactics" are????

Water describes a reactive style of play that adapts to the way the opponent plays. There is a 4th ed tactica on it somewhere. Maybe not even on dakka. I forget where I read that

It's something GK veterans have made great use of.

Here...I have the link saved.

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/index.php?showtopic=101214

Yes...a 4th edition tactica that keeps evolving with the GK army.

I plan on releasing my own GK tactica soon that will be built off this...though admittedly much much different. GK is now the ultimate water army...just the way they go about it has changed drastically.