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Quick question is: Can a justicar fill the requirement of being "any terminator" in a Grey Knight terminator squad, and take the psycannon?

yes he is part of squad but its kinda ify

How is it iffy? He is apart of the squad and all the text says is for every 5 one terminator may take... With that I would say there is no reason that he could not take one. It is actually a the only way to get a master crafted pycannon. Just remember though he is the first to die with the BoP rule.

Any model in the squad may be upgraded in any way allowed unless it says that an upgrade is justicar only.

Actually, they differentiate; Psycannons/incinerators/psilencers are "any Terminator" and the CC weapons are "any model". There is no need to make a distinction if there is no difference.

With that said, it also states it is a "terminator Justicar", so I'm not sure what the difference is.

I've been seeing warding stave equipped justicars so I don't see why they couldn't take the Psycannon. If memory serves Justicars were able to purchase Psycannons in the Daemon Hunters Codex.

NecronLord3 wrote:I've been seeing warding stave equipped justicars so I don't see why they couldn't take the Psycannon. If memory serves Justicars were able to purchase Psycannons in the Daemon Hunters Codex.

Warding staves state "one model", which is different wording than the psycannon. I personally don't see why it should matter, so do whatever you want. Given how nitpicky some people (including GW) are about wording, I just think you should be aware that they phrased it differently. Being GW, there might be a reason for that, or there might not.

You can, but i don't know why you'd want to. If you perils, you're losing your psycannon..?

For the terminators yes, for the strike squad, interceptor squad and purifier squad no.

The terminator squad says one terminator and the justicar is a justicar terminator.

For the other squads it says a grey knight or a purifier so the justicar can not.

Warboss Nidsplitta wrote:You can, but i don't know why you'd want to. If you perils, you're losing your psycannon..?

It's because the Justicar can make any of his weapons Master Crafted. MC Psycannon would be pretty effin sweet I suppose.

The justicar can't take a Psycannon because it says "any Terminator"


the Justicar is NOT a terminator, he is a Justicar.


he can take any of the other upgrades though as those say "any Model"

Grey Templar wrote:The justicar can't take a Psycannon because it says "any Terminator"


the Justicar is NOT a terminator, he is a Justicar.


he can take any of the other upgrades though as those say "any Model"

This^^

It may be the strictest (and some might say most pedantic) interpretation of the rules, but it is also the most consistent with the way the options are worded (given that they differentiate "any model" and "any Terminator" in a unit comprised of "Terminators" and "Terminator Justicars"). /agree

GT is 100% correct; this is the same reason that you cannot have a Vanilla Terminator Sgt wielding an assault Cannon, he is a terminator Sgt, not a terminator.

Back to Grey knights; He is a terminator Justicar, niot a terminator; and the Unit is a Grey knight terminator Squad.

This is all in stark contrast to much of the Dark Eldar Codex where most basic troopers in the Squad share the Same name as the Squad itself, so When you have upgrades that state: "for every 3 models, 1 Reaver may have a heat lance" you can put that heat lance on the Arena Champion because he is also a Reaver(the units name, along with the Base troopers name).

Kommissar Kel wrote:GT is 100% correct; this is the same reason that you cannot have a Vanilla Terminator Sgt wielding an assault Cannon, he is a terminator Sgt, not a terminator.

Back to Grey knights; He is a terminator Justicar, niot a terminator; and the Unit is a Grey knight terminator Squad.

This is all in stark contrast to much of the Dark Eldar Codex where most basic troopers in the Squad share the Same name as the Squad itself, so When you have upgrades that state: "for every 3 models, 1 Reaver may have a heat lance" you can put that heat lance on the Arena Champion because he is also a Reaver(the units name, along with the Base troopers name).

Case closed.

Thanks grey templar, for steering me away from making a big mistake with my squad composition