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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/07 06:14:02
Subject: Grand Strategy & Dreadnoughts
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Simple question, if you use Grand Strategy - Unyielding Anvil on a Dreadnought, does it have any effect?
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"A key position must be seized for victory to be won. The nominated units can claim objectives as if they were Troops."
Normally vehicles can not claim any objectives (Dedicated Transports, DC Dreadnoughts, etc.) unless a specific rule says otherwise. Dark Angels' Ravenwing Landspeeders can claim objectives because they are specifically said to be scoring. However, Grand Strategy says something a little different.
It doesn't say they claim objectives. It says they can claim objectives "as if they were Troops."
If a Dreadnought were a troop, it wouldn't be able to score (again, DC Dreadnoughts).
So, can GK Dreadnoughts score with Grand Strategy?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/07 06:21:33
Subject: Grand Strategy & Dreadnoughts
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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By that wording, I would have to say no.
If they claim the objective 'as if they were Troops' then vehicles can't claim the objective, due to Troops vehicles not being able to do so.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/07 08:09:39
Subject: Grand Strategy & Dreadnoughts
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1st Lieutenant
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This should be FAQ'ed as there would be no need to mention that this can be used on walkers if they couldn't actually capture objectives.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/07 08:50:11
Subject: Grand Strategy & Dreadnoughts
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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They are Scoring "as if they were troops" - so theyre scoring, with no reference to being a vehicle or not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/04/07 09:53:46
Subject: Grand Strategy & Dreadnoughts
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Ork Admiral Kroozin Da Kosmos on Da Hulk
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BRB pg. 90 says that swarms and vehicles can not control objectives. Vehicles "claim objectives as if they were troops"(GK codex pg. 22) would not be able to control an objective, as a vehicle actually in a troops slot can not control an objective either.
Edit: Fixed sentence, added exact quote.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2011/04/07 09:57:50
7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/15 08:47:26
Subject: Re:Grand Strategy & Dreadnoughts
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Imperial Recruit in Training
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Thankfully the Grand Masters' Unyielding Anvil has been FAQ'd and reworded as "The nominated units can control objectives as if they were scoring units"
My understanding would be that dreadnoughts, as well as any other vehicle granted the Unyielding Anvil ability, may now capture objectives (similar to the "Big Guns Never Tire" scenario on pg128).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/12/15 09:32:07
Subject: Grand Strategy & Dreadnoughts
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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This thread was from more than two years ago, prior to the FAQ
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