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HELLO!

I'm new to 40k and wargaming in general.
In spite of their high model count I've always found orks to be the most 'attractive' race, even back when i was considering picking up the hobby in 2004.
well, better late than never. I'm finally here.

It is slow going, though. I picked up my first boyz squad in late january, and black reach a few weeks later (there's a reason I went a squad of boyz first and by a week, but i'll spare the details), now I've finally got my first model painted.

It's definitely not 100% finished, i still need to paint the base and put some finishing details on his armor and klaw and whatnot (i.e. blood).






I've painted the skin and face on the rest of the nobz, warboss and deffkoptas and his is by far the worst face of all of them (eyes didn't turn out).

the look i was going for on the skull was simply for it to look like a painted red skull. I'd appreciate if anyone could give any tips on helping me achieve that effect.

for skin i followed natakue's bad moon ork guide.

for the helmet i was trying to follow natakue's technique for ork armor but used red instead of pure boltgun metal. unfortunately i used devlan mud instead of sepia ... so the helmet is a lot darker than i intended.

everything else after i painted or left blank i just washed with devlan mud. kindof following chrispy's guide.

camo pants were done with guidence from northen's article.

OK. so there it is. any thoughts? comments? tips?

on the subject of clan colors, i had originally thought that i was gonna have my warclan be pretty chaotic with the only unifying parts being red helmets and skulls (and so i would name my clan "blud skullz"), and egregious amounts of blood. and so these orks just wear the first thing they find, but i'm really liking the camo paints and may make that an additional visually unifying factor (not that they are sneaky or any thing, they just really like the way it looks, like i do). what do you think?


Edit: not sure if this is more showcase or question... maybe it should be moved to the Painting & Modeling forum? or not.

Hey there, fantastic start. Couple of pointers.

First thing would be to do a couple of coats of paints. There are parts, like in the helmet for example where it looks like you can see through to the undercoat. This might no be the case but it looks like it. 2-3 light coats are always better than one heavy one.

I must say, i really love those pants.

FANTASTIC for a first model. You've got some rock solid foundations to build upon, by the look of it. The camo pattern on the pants is done better than I've seen many painters with a few years of experience on you crank out and hints at some solid brush control.

Oh, and I think posting this here is fine. Specific questions and WIPs should go in P&M, but this is essentially a finished model (sans basing and minor details). You're asking for a general critique and tips to improve, which is standard procedure when someone puts up a finished model.

thanks for the kind words guys!

oadie wrote:hints at some solid brush control.

i've got a few spots where i've messed up some vital areas, like this orks left bicep (or i guess it's his right, your left) has a nasty spot of boltgun metal that i didn't notice until it had dried. i'm guessing stuff like that will happen less with time.

i spent a lot of time doing research and finding techniques that would help me know more what i was doing before i started... i also just realized i lied, i did do a test paint on a model of half an ork boy; some extra bits that came in the boyz box. so you could say this is my second model, but the boy had no legs... so.

Great painting, but drill that bbarrel, The guns that look the worst not drilled are storm bolters and ork guns! Keep at the brush control, it'll get better

I just got into 40k myself, but your painting blows mine away! awesome job!

He looks good. Nice job.

bok_choy17 wrote:Great painting, but drill that bbarrel, The guns that look the worst not drilled are storm bolters and ork guns! Keep at the brush control, it'll get better

haha... thought about that after i primed... but i didn't have a smaller drill bit. maybe i'll pick that up tonight.

Wow, yeah, that camo is great! Not that the rest is bad, but the camo is so good that the other parts almost look unfinished. Keep at it and you'll have a spectacular looking Waaagghh! on your hands soon enough.

hungryp wrote:Wow, yeah, that camo is great! Not that the rest is bad, but the camo is so good that the other parts almost look unfinished. Keep at it and you'll have a spectacular looking Waaagghh! on your hands soon enough.

i'm gonna take a guess that it's the lack of varnish... but that's just a guess. i have some. i'm just waiting until it's totally done to put it on.

Congrats, for a first model that is really good. I'd reiterate the gun barrel thing. You need a pin vise (little hand drill). GW sells them. On this model though, I'd just paint the 'hole' with Chaos Black.

I kinda agree with the statement about being able to see the primer through the wash. Seems you're going for a lighter effect, so I'd recommend trying (say the boots for example) a coat of light brown under the wash.

For the skull, I'd basecoat it a medium red, then a red wash (not ink, too shiny), badab black wash just in the eyesockets and nose holes and then drybrush about three 'coats', each getting successively lighter (both color and amount of paint). Last coat should be almost a dark to medium orange. (I've done this before, red skulls) If needed, a thin red wash will smooth out and blend the drybrushing.

If you aren't good at drybrushing, take a spare skull, glue it to a toothpick and practice! Remember to use your crappiest brush! Lots of tutorials around for that. Another thing I learned about drybrushing, especially metallic paints is sometimes it 'dusts' the areas you didn't want to drybrush. When possible I paint those things before I glue it together. I didn't for years, but now I see the value in it.

Happy painting!

Note: A red INK wash will make the skull actually look bloody, so your final drybrush will need to be orangy closer to yellow than red as ink tends to color the model more evenly than a paint wash would. If you want to do it this way, do the ink wash last and maybe skip the regular wash step.

Those pants are fantastic!

Thats not bad man well done!

Wow! That's a great looking model!

My only criticism is that I wish you had drilled the barrel out on his slugga. Aside from that, the model is just freakin' sweet.

Etna's Vassal wrote:My only criticism is that I wish you had drilled the barrel out on his slugga. Aside from that, the model is just freakin' sweet.

it shant happen again.

very good, keep up the good work. Incidentally, I'm by far the most impressed by the camo pants. Well done.

i think i should ask, i don't think it's too big of a deal for now, because it's my first model, but for future models i might want it to not happen.

Why would the paint be cracking? I went back and repainted the helmet, skull, boss pole, shoulder pad, and power klaw, with a bunch of red and the red paint is pretty consistently cracking (i did add a little water to the paint, could that have anything to do with it? or is it that i just painted over dried paint and not primer?)

Ha I love the camo pants. Reminds me from when I was in the Army and the old BDU's. Dont worry it looks like you have a solid base of skills. And you can learn alot of tips and tricks to help with your painting style from dakkadakka. Good start so far.

Not sure why the paint is cracking. I water down my paints all the time. Did you get any contaminates in your paint when you added water? Other than that how old is the paint?

The paint cracking sounds like the model became greasy and your paint has sat ontop of the grease hence not adhering to the model. Painting over dried acrilic paint should be solid after all people do that all the time when they apply several thin coats of paint. My sugestion is to clean your hands and make sure nothing greasy or oily comes to close to your stuff, even leaving them on the kitchen table when someone is frying bacon can ruine a good paint job. overall your painting is quite neat which is the first big step, I would advise some more highlighting and shading but that may be the photo's rather then the model.... Awesome camo pants though


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or the apint could be soo old and or contaminated as stated above

k i'm done with him.



some things got better some things got worse.

you may notice he does not have his boss pole. i magnetized it on to him. i realize that may have been a waste of a magnet but at the time i thought i might be ranging from 1 to 2 boyz squads (as my army is currently small), so i magnetized one and put the other on permanently. i did paint the 'teeth' on the boss pole red, i think it looks better.