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Samus_aran115 wrote:NOOOOOOOOO,that daemon prince is the ugliest piece of trash I've ever had the misfortune of looking at!

If they get rid of the metal daemon prince, I swear, I'll freakin slash my wrists. That thing is Trash,utter trash. It retains none of the Chaotic Evil that the beautiful daemon Prince had.

Oh,and I'm talking about the one on page 9.The above one's sword and horns are meh,too exagerated

We'll miss you.

Can we have your stuff?

Samus_aran115 wrote:Oh,and I'm talking about the one on page 9.The above one's sword and horns are meh,too exagerated

You mean the one that I just

bhsman wrote:That first one is actually a conversion from a World Eaters blog.

Kanluwen wrote:...
It's the exact same model, with a few details altered so it can be made in plastic.

What? It's obviously not the same as the metal Daemon Prince. It lost all of its charm and details with that trash on page 9. The best part about the metal CSM Daemon Prince is that wicked detailing on the left arm and those awesome ripples in the armor. That model is incredibly simplified, with no interesting details or worthwhile details. Terrible model. Seems incredibly out of place for games workshop..even for daemons..

bhsman wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:Oh,and I'm talking about the one on page 9.The above one's sword and horns are meh,too exagerated

You mean the one that I just

bhsman wrote:That first one is actually a conversion from a World Eaters blog.

Oh,sorry,didn't read your post. That makes sense.

You don't die if you slash your wrists..duh.

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Not seeing any difference worth getting upset about...

Then your obviously not a chaos player. Are you blind?

The new face is beyond stupid, it lost all evil-ness. The new one looks like some stupid ork face or something,those horns are trashy,and the general shape is very modular and boxie. AND that's just the face. I could point out numerous differences between them, but I'm too tired to type and more. Look a little closer there, bub.

WTH is up with it's hands? Is it a plant or something?
Its legs are that stupid horse variety crap, which is completely wrong for CSM
The lower torso is exposed, which looks terrible
Its armor lacks any depth or feeling. Its too clean and new looking
Not enough chains and skulls
The backpack looks beyond ridiculous,which also lost ANY personality it once had

And what cool its are lost (the leg armor, mostly) are worth to to never have to glue that fether together ever again.

Samus_aran115 wrote:Then your obviously not a chaos player. Are you blind?

The new face is beyond stupid, it lost all evil-ness. The new one looks like some stupid ork face or something,those horns are trashy,and the general shape is very modular and boxie. AND that's just the face. I could point out numerous differences between them, but I'm too tired to type and more. Look a little closer there, bub.

It's the exact same face.

Seriously. Tilt the picture a bit if you need to on the new one, but it's the same face.

MasterSlowPoke wrote:And what cool its are lost (the leg armor, mostly) are worth to to never have to glue that fether together ever again.

Agreed. Pain in the ass model to put together, and keep together.

As for the loss of the leg armor--it's probably so it can be easily made adaptable to both 40k and Fantasy.

Kanluwen wrote:

I broke a nail

Umm... the depth of detail on the metal one is superior and its backpack doesn't look like it was carved from pieces of foam. I think parts of the plastic one are good but its not as good. I think it will hinge on what other bits are included as to howl worth while it is.

i have to agree, the new one is different from the old metal one. Both are good though, just different

Kanluwen wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:Then your obviously not a chaos player. Are you blind?

The new face is beyond stupid, it lost all evil-ness. The new one looks like some stupid ork face or something,those horns are trashy,and the general shape is very modular and boxie. AND that's just the face. I could point out numerous differences between them, but I'm too tired to type and more. Look a little closer there, bub.

It's the exact same face.

Seriously. Tilt the picture a bit if you need to on the new one, but it's the same face.

MasterSlowPoke wrote:And what cool its are lost (the leg armor, mostly) are worth to to never have to glue that fether together ever again.

Agreed. Pain in the ass model to put together, and keep together.

As for the loss of the leg armor--it's probably so it can be easily made adaptable to both 40k and Fantasy.

I completely agree about putting and holding it together, It took me a couple hours, mainly because the arms cannot be pinned, and the leg is too massive to pin well. The shoulder pads and exhaust ports were even worse.

I tried your tip,only to realize even MORE differences. Seriously,do you need glasses or something?


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aka_mythos wrote:Umm... the depth of detail on the metal one is superior and its backpack doesn't look like it was carved from pieces of foam. I think parts of the plastic one are good but its not as good. I think it will hinge on what other bits are included as to howl worth while it is.

THANK YOU

I do like the right shoulder guard a lot on the new one,but that's about it... The hands are just too stupid looking for words. I'll prefer this one if the nurgle bits are really good, or maybe if it has good looking wings. I hate that nurgle daemon prince's sword,among other things

Samus_aran115 wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:Then your obviously not a chaos player. Are you blind?

The new face is beyond stupid, it lost all evil-ness. The new one looks like some stupid ork face or something,those horns are trashy,and the general shape is very modular and boxie. AND that's just the face. I could point out numerous differences between them, but I'm too tired to type and more. Look a little closer there, bub.

It's the exact same face.

Seriously. Tilt the picture a bit if you need to on the new one, but it's the same face.

MasterSlowPoke wrote:And what cool its are lost (the leg armor, mostly) are worth to to never have to glue that fether together ever again.

Agreed. Pain in the ass model to put together, and keep together.

As for the loss of the leg armor--it's probably so it can be easily made adaptable to both 40k and Fantasy.

I completely agree about putting and holding it together, It took me a couple hours, mainly because the arms cannot be pinned, and the leg is too massive to pin well. The shoulder pads and exhaust ports were even worse.

I tried your tip,only to realize even MORE differences. Seriously,do you need glasses or something?

I wear glasses actually. And I can see just fine.

Maybe I need to get into the mind of someone who feels slighted enough about it to even joke about suicide over a model being "altered", then I'll see a difference worth caring about?

aka_mythos wrote:Umm... the depth of detail on the metal one is superior and its backpack doesn't look like it was carved from pieces of foam. I think parts of the plastic one are good but its not as good. I think it will hinge on what other bits are included as to howl worth while it is.

THANK YOU

I do like the right shoulder guard a lot on the new one,but that's about it... The hands are just too stupid looking for words. I'll prefer this one if the nurgle bits are really good, or maybe if it has good looking wings. I hate that nurgle daemon prince's sword,among other things

Gee, it's almost like a plastic kit wouldn't have more than one option that would allow you to pick and choose...

I like that DP. It's growing on me by the minute though it looks too Khornate. I'd hope to make a suitable looking Nurgle DP from the kit. Not necessarily a giant nurgling but something more akin to a PM turned DP.

If not I'll just model Nurglings at it's feet and say it's a DP of Nurgle.

I need a 3rd job.

MasterSlowPoke wrote:

Hello Thunderwolf conversion. Plastic jug is great news.

Hello 24 crushers in a single army. LOL.

I've seen you poo-pooing all over CSM on the forums,so really,I can't even argue with your obviously failed logic.

GW is terrible at making plastic kits that have actual versatility, so I seriously doubt there will be more 1 set of options for a Nurgle DP.Gee, I can't think of a single GW kit that represents anywhere near the diversity of 4 different factions in a single kit...huh.

Having competent options for all of the Chaos Gods is important, but could be avoided by just making 5 separate Dp kits. One for each god, and a chaos undivided DP.

And wow,that Jug looks great. Really nice to see a plastic one,finally!

Fateweaver wrote:Hello 24 crushers in a single army. LOL.

24? you think too small my friend. more like 88 crushers for apocalypse

MasterSlowPoke wrote:

Is it just me, or does it look like he's flipping someone off? Reminds me of that old snotling.

Nah, he saw Abaddon doing it once and thought it was cool.

I prefer the metal CSM DP, as he has much better detail and features. The upcoming plastic CSM DP is not a terrible model by any means, and it will probably be neat because it will be easier to work with.

The metal one is still a classy model though, and it will be a shame to see it go.

dietrich wrote:Is it just me, or does it look like he's flipping someone off?

You just know there are gonna be a million conversions of that. Each one thinking they're clever and unique for doing it.

and this picture is from one issue of White Dwarf...

My thoughts:
Changeling- meh. It is what it is. Nothing particularly wrong with it, but it does nothing for me.
Horrors- They look inferior to the current metal ones IMHO, but part of that may be the colour scheme.
2-Headed LoC- I like. Particularly the fish on his staff and the bird-skull loin cloth. Why do bird skulls always look weird?
Demon Prince- I can see merit to the metal 40K prince, particularly in its leg silhouette over this one. The new one is not that bad though. If I needed a DP for Fantasy, I'd probably try to adapt the 40K plastic bits though. The head is alright.
Seekers- as they contain elements of the new plastic Daemonettes, they are terrible. They mounts are OK. So they're diluted terrible, but still terrible. I kinda like the weapon on the one on the right though, just because it looks ridiculous and therefore appropriate as a daemon weapon.
Bloodcrusher- it is what it is. Nothing wrong with the model. My only question is, it looks pretty much exactly like the metal one, so what was the point of making both in such a short span of time? Indicative of poor planning on GW's part.

Not a bad set of releases TBH, certainly better than I expected. None are enough to make me want to start a Daemon army, but I wouldn't be hurt for seeing any of them opposite me on the table top. Except for the Daemonettes of course. But who knows, some enterprising Kroot or Exodite player might get some good use out of the Seeker bodies, so they may be worth something.

Samus_aran115 wrote:You don't die if you slash your wrists..duh.

The new daemon prince is really kinda iffy imo.

Head is okay, im not a fan of its angular nature, but it seems to work.
The backpack, is awful. Its far to large, and doesnt give me the daemon prince feel. The old backpack was fused with the flesh and this one just isnt giving the right feel.
Lack of leg armor makes me sadface but it does look descent and will grow on me.
It lacks legit chaos iconery. The symbols are like scratched into the armor, i wanna see at least one legit 8 pointed star like the old daemon prince.
It really really really needs a weapon. He looks so wimpy with his hands.

Overall, give him a weapon and he will look so much better and worthwhile.

My two favs I think:



And:



I think the horrors look a little silly.

It seems tzeench got the best of the new models.
Just as planned

I like all of them. I'm a little unsure about the Horrors, but then again, I'm not the biggest Tzeentch fan. Bloodcrusher a little too dog like for me. I'm with everyone who says the DP sucks, as well as the Seeker riders.

FlammingGaunt wrote:It seems tzeench got the best of the new models.
Just as planned

this made me smile and made me think of the quote " Change, Just as planned"