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Looks like Kraatos to me!

Something else to add to my AdeptiCon pre-order.

Kharn gets a lot of heat because he is so well known, but for me, I can’t think of a better “classic Kharn” pose then literally being the shadow of Angron. For me anyways what stands out about Kharn before chaos, is how much he became like the son of Angron trying to hold his legion together, but being consumed by that same burning desire to maim and burn all his enemy’s. I agree that the pistol is my major gripe I hated that style of pistol when GW made them and I hate them now, but I own a PP I like so I will just swap them when the time is right. The helm is a hit for me just because it’s different from what I have seen, and it looks like the art work its loosely based off(IMO) . the challenge of 30k charts that have 40k counter parts is to make them special without making them wildly special cause until chaos they weren’t more than captions leaders ect.
But I like almost everything that has come out so far so I am “easily pleased” I guess my only major gripe is Angron and it’s the size of his legs and feet Vs. the size of his shoulders, but I hope that is because I haven’t see it IRL much. My 2 cents. Also I cannot wait for Horus to finally be revealed.

Kind of a piss off for me with Kraatos. As a Minotaurs player who happens to live nowehere even remotely close to anywhere FW or GW operate, I just won't get him. I like the look of that model, but given it'll be on Ebay for 50+ like most limited edition stuff, it's just not worth it.

I'd rather buy a Deimos Predator or something.

Yeah, the Chaos Dwarf is cool I suppose, I don't collect them myself but it seems a nice model. The 40K event-only mini though is a real disappointment. After the Davinite Priest and the Enforcer, I was really hoping they'd continue putting out interesting models that we wouldn't see otherwise, and this time we get what, a MK4 Marine holding a heavy bolter with a couple of wee bits added on to the armour?

Really lazy.

I mean seriously, I get that Marines sell well and that the Heresy series is taking up most of FW's time, but if it's monopolising their sculptors to the extent that even their super-special event-only model is just yet another Marine with a slight facelift, I worry that the very thing that made FW appealing -oddball projects, unique centerpiece models, cool tanks- is being smothered by the parent company's neverending profit-lust.

 MajorStoffer wrote:
Kind of a piss off for me with Kraatos. As a Minotaurs player who happens to live nowehere even remotely close to anywhere FW or GW operate, I just won't get him. I like the look of that model, but given it'll be on Ebay for 50+ like most limited edition stuff, it's just not worth it.

I'd rather buy a Deimos Predator or something.

If you know anyone going to Adepticon, Forge World should be there.

No way that model should be event only. Travesty.

So for the uneducated among us, whats the deal with Kraatos, back story etc? just looks like a devastator in blingy armour to me.

No idea what the backstory is, but here's a better image:



Amusingly, I found that image by googling Kraatos and choosing the first image that came up, only to find out it was a photo that I myself took at the Open Day last year

He's a special character for the Minotaur chapter in IA12. Devastator sergeant upgrade, expensive, but gives you a 2 wound sergeant with a heavy bolter with normal fire or a St 6 ap3 single shot, and gives the whole squad preferred enemy against every infantry/bike type. His fluff is pretty short, only showing up in the that book, being responsible for wiping out an entire Dark Eldar force during the Orpheus campaign by using civilians as bait, and, I quote, "By their superior accuracy and Kraatos's own ingenious plan, casualties were significantly lower than expected, with only 6 out of 10 civilians recorded as casualties."

He's a named character for one of FW's pet chapters, and you can only get him from GW events. There's simply no way for me to get him; even the well-to-do tournament types with plenty of money to blow won't be traveling half way across the continent for an event, even one as interesting as adepticon; they'll just spend the $60 on ebay if they really want to for the limited ed. minis, as they have in the past for the boarding marine, for example.

I do think there's something wrong with releasing actual characters and part of an army as an event only mini, as not only does it deprive people of models they may actually want or need for their army, but also acts in place of something more unique, not bound by the limitations of game design.

You could ask someone here on Dakka that will be attending the events in North America if they would be willing to get one for you.

 MajorStoffer wrote:
I do think there's something wrong with releasing actual characters and part of an army as an event only mini, as not only does it deprive people of models they may actually want or need for their army, but also acts in place of something more unique, not bound by the limitations of game design.

I agree with this in general, but let's be honest here: this "character" is just another power armor marine with a heavy bolter. Throw some Minotaurs shoulder pads on a spare devastator marine and the only thing you lose is a few small chapter icons that most people probably won't even notice. TBH I'm surprised they bothered with a model for him at all when there are more interesting characters available.

 Peregrine wrote:

 MajorStoffer wrote:
I do think there's something wrong with releasing actual characters and part of an army as an event only mini, as not only does it deprive people of models they may actually want or need for their army, but also acts in place of something more unique, not bound by the limitations of game design.

I agree with this in general, but let's be honest here: this "character" is just another power armor marine with a heavy bolter. Throw some Minotaurs shoulder pads on a spare devastator marine and the only thing you lose is a few small chapter icons that most people probably won't even notice. TBH I'm surprised they bothered with a model for him at all when there are more interesting characters available.

This is true, and what I had already done. I'm still wondering when they'll get around to the Necron characters in IA12.

I'm digging that chaos dwarf. To bad I'm never going to get a chance to go to a FW event ever.

Well, at least it's nice to have a decent event-only model for once.

 Breotan wrote:
Well, at least it's nice to have a decent event-only model for once.

I thought the boarding marine was quite nice.

Boarding Marine was great!

I actually really loved that sigmar priest they had.

So is there no HH event only model?

They did not have one last year.

 Koppo wrote:
They did not have one last year.

They had the lodge priest.

There were the three models last year, the priest came after several of the events like Adepticon had passed, so I guess we will see.

If you aren't going to anything, time to butter up someone who is. I ended up with 2 of the BA captain from gamesday, and that was much harder to come by. I'm planning on getting a few of the Heavy Bolter dudes for myself. You can only get one at the show (usually), but they will ship you as many as you pay for.

In honor of the upcoming holiday and the upcoming Horus figure here is the history of Lupercalia, the February pagan holiday that we now celebrate as Valentine's Day.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lupercalia
Lupercalia was a very ancient, possibly pre-Roman[2] pastoral festival, observed on February 13 through 15 to avert evil spirits and purify the city, releasing health and fertility. Lupercalia subsumed Februa, an earlier-origin spring cleansing ritual held on the same date, which gives the month of February (Februarius) its name.

The name Lupercalia was believed in antiquity to evince some connection with the Ancient Greek festival of the Arcadian Lykaia (from Ancient Greek: λύκος — lukos, "wolf", Latin lupus) and the worship of Lycaean Pan, assumed to be a Greek equivalent to Faunus, as instituted by Evander.[3]

In Roman mythology, Lupercus is a god sometimes identified with the Roman god Faunus, who is the Roman equivalent of the Greek god Pan.[4] Lupercus is the god of shepherds. His festival, celebrated on the anniversary of the founding of his temple on February 15, was called the Lupercalia. His priests wore goatskins. The historian Justin mentions an image of "the Lycaean god, whom the Greeks call Pan and the Romans Lupercus,"[5] nude save for the girdle of goatskin, which stood in the Lupercal, the cave where Romulus and Remus were suckled by a she-wolf. There, on the Ides of February (in February the ides is the 13th), a goat and a dog were sacrificed, and salt mealcakes prepared by the Vestal Virgins were burnt.

That chaos dwarf pic is at a terrible angle. Cant really tell what his face looks like. Looks good though, hopefully hes at comic con!

Just looked up the boarding marine on google.
Great looking model. However peeps are selling it on ebay for around £40 + P&P! Way too much for me :(

That Devastator marine is boring as all get-out. The pose also reminds me of the Anvil heavy bolter arm set.

That HB guy is really nice. Kind of wish FW would release a Minotaur upgrade kit, or full Minotaur kit. Perhaps vets in ornate armour.

 Medium of Death wrote:
That HB guy is really nice. Kind of wish FW would release a Minotaur upgrade kit, or full Minotaur kit. Perhaps vets in ornate armour.

Or better - in all MKVIII armor!

 Alpharius wrote:

 Medium of Death wrote:
That HB guy is really nice. Kind of wish FW would release a Minotaur upgrade kit, or full Minotaur kit. Perhaps vets in ornate armour.

Or better - in all MKVIII armor!

Or even better - a MkVIII kit in general!

 whalemusic360 wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

 Medium of Death wrote:
That HB guy is really nice. Kind of wish FW would release a Minotaur upgrade kit, or full Minotaur kit. Perhaps vets in ornate armour.

Or better - in all MKVIII armor!

Or even better - a MkVIII kit in general!

Well, I'd prefer that, but if the Minos are the new FW Pet, you know...!

 Alpharius wrote:

 Medium of Death wrote:
That HB guy is really nice. Kind of wish FW would release a Minotaur upgrade kit, or full Minotaur kit. Perhaps vets in ornate armour.

Or better - in all MKVIII armor!

I am wondering why we don't already have MkVIII when Forge World is already sort of digging about on what marine stuff to make for the HH.